Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Dec 19, 2014 - 12:58 |
 
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| Purplegoo wrote: | I hope it was clear I think SF is a better skill than NOS! But you know what I mean, it would be quite a nice starter gimmick. I like (for instance) Diving Catch on Slann, and even use it sometimes, but I'm not about to begin selecting it anywhere else.
I do really like gimmick starter skills. I've not spent enough time studying SL rosters yet, but I'm hoping for some fun there.  |
Elementals is probably the team you are looking for, if its skill spam you want - https://fumbbl.com/help:ElementalT |
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Joemanji
Joined: Jan 15, 2011
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Dec 19, 2014 - 13:04 |
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OP for me, but hopefully we'll get to test it. Bash teams just will not be able to deal with mass SF / AV9. Elves may be able to dodge away, but they will have a hard time making gaps. |
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Purplegoo
Joined: Mar 23, 2006
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Dec 19, 2014 - 13:07 |
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Pfffft. My (panics and selects a roster at random) Sea Elves are going to pw3n those mens.  |
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Joemanji
Joined: Jan 15, 2011
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Dec 19, 2014 - 13:08 |
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Challenge accepted. |
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Stonetroll
Joined: Jun 30, 2005
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Dec 19, 2014 - 13:25 |
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Red+Green elemental deck.. erm team would be pretty much surf city. Although playing a team with expensive players and not regen/apo might not be for the faint of heart |
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Roland
Joined: May 12, 2004
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Dec 19, 2014 - 13:25 |
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Treemen team will also be interesting... |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Dec 19, 2014 - 13:33 |
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| Joemanji wrote: | | OP for me, but hopefully we'll get to test it. Bash teams just will not be able to deal with mass SF / AV9. Elves may be able to dodge away, but they will have a hard time making gaps. |
Naa, they are all st3 men with no block, wrestle or dodge and if you take rocks as your linemen they are pretty slow. The teams fine. |
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Joemanji
Joined: Jan 15, 2011
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Dec 19, 2014 - 13:45 |
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We'll see. |
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Ziggyny
Joined: Mar 20, 2013
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Dec 19, 2014 - 14:26 |
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I will sometimes take stand firm before mighty blow on a dwarf or chaos dwarf blocker. Guard first, then stand firm. Having a large number of guard/stand firm guys means you can end up in board states where your opponent starts their turn in contact with most of your team but can't get a 2 die block. Without stand firm they can take a 1 die block looking for a push to open things up.
When a team is starting out you want mighty blow first, maybe one guard or two. But once your team is established with several guard/mighty blow/stand firm characters new players just need to get back to guard/stand firm as fast as possible because guard/stand firm gets better and better as you have more of it. Piling on gets worse and worse as you have more of it, since you only get one blitz. |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Dec 19, 2014 - 15:43 |
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| Purplegoo wrote: | I like (for instance) Diving Catch on Slann, and even use it sometimes, but I'm not about to begin selecting it anywhere else.
I do really like gimmick starter skills. |
I'd like Dodge instead of Diving Catch on Slann Catchers.
Gimmick skills are good if the player starts with sound, core skills. |
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JackassRampant
Joined: Feb 26, 2011
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Dec 19, 2014 - 16:19 |
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Well, with starter skills, you can cost accordingly. If Slann Catchers had Dodge they'd also have to be more expensive, but DC as a gimmick can be near-free. |
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Purplegoo
Joined: Mar 23, 2006
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Dec 19, 2014 - 16:23 |
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If they're sound, they're not gimmicks! |
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the_Sage
Joined: Jan 13, 2011
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Dec 19, 2014 - 16:39 |
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I do think earth elemental linos are pretty strong. Orc linos with stand firm and S access for 10k.
Cheap positionals but expensive big guys. Would have to see it in action. More importantly, looks fun though. =) |
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keggiemckill
Joined: Oct 07, 2004
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Dec 19, 2014 - 17:24 |
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| MattDakka wrote: | | Purplegoo wrote: | I like (for instance) Diving Catch on Slann, and even use it sometimes, but I'm not about to begin selecting it anywhere else.
I do really like gimmick starter skills. |
I'd like Dodge instead of Diving Catch on Slann Catchers.
Gimmick skills are good if the player starts with sound, core skills. |
Slann are awesome that respect. They have all the skills I think about taking, but never would because Id rather core skills. Diving Catch, Diving Tackle, and JU. It's really a unique team. I wish I could figure them out. |
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Smeat
Joined: Nov 19, 2006
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Dec 19, 2014 - 19:53 |
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The best thing about DC (that many forget) is that it adds +1 to Catch accurate Passes, which makes it a poor man's NoS. |
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