Throweck
Joined: Feb 23, 2013
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Mar 20, 2017 - 10:46 |
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zakatan
Joined: May 17, 2008
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Mar 20, 2017 - 11:17 |
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rename to ClawJUMB complaints thread |
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garyt1
Joined: Mar 12, 2011
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Mar 20, 2017 - 22:10 |
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We need some Dwarf and Orc coaches to get in here and rant that they have lost their piling on but that mutants can still cut through their armour with claws like knives through butter. And they can't even stubbornly stand firm for all these juggers about. |
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licker
Joined: Jul 10, 2009
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Mar 20, 2017 - 22:22 |
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garyt1 wrote: | We need some Dwarf and Orc coaches to get in here and rant that they have lost their piling on but that mutants can still cut through their armour with claws like knives through butter. And they can't even stubbornly stand firm for all these juggers about. |
It's a nice thought and all, but the Dwarf and Orc coaches already gave up a long time ago |
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Rabe
Joined: Jun 06, 2009
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Mar 20, 2017 - 23:00 |
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Woot?! Never!! |
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Traul
Joined: Jun 09, 2013
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Mar 20, 2017 - 23:35 |
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With less Chaos and more elves around, which forces coaches to select more Tackle than Claw, the meta should become friendlier to orcs and dwarves. |
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licker
Joined: Jul 10, 2009
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Mar 20, 2017 - 23:40 |
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Why would there be less chaos?
It will just be chaos with more tackle, which will make for fewer elfs as well. |
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Rabe
Joined: Jun 06, 2009
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Mar 21, 2017 - 00:06 |
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Without killers being able to pile on, they have to be left standing. If they cannot move back into safety, other bashers will hit back. Positioning becomes more important again. And since C-MB is less effective, the blitzers are much less certain to remove a player each (other) turn. I guess especially Dwarves and Orcs will find it easier to handle the situation. Maybe Chaos becomes less attractive because they'll require more skill to be played? |
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DrPoods
Joined: Nov 14, 2013
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Mar 21, 2017 - 00:36 |
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Rabe wrote: | "... they'll require more skill... " |
I'll get my coat. |
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licker
Joined: Jul 10, 2009
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Mar 21, 2017 - 02:02 |
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Rabe wrote: | Without killers being able to pile on, they have to be left standing. If they cannot move back into safety, other bashers will hit back. Positioning becomes more important again. And since C-MB is less effective, the blitzers are much less certain to remove a player each (other) turn. I guess especially Dwarves and Orcs will find it easier to handle the situation. Maybe Chaos becomes less attractive because they'll require more skill to be played? |
Maybe, but the people who want to play kill stuff will still play chaos (Nurgle/CD/...). They may kill less than they did before, but they will still kill Dwarfs and Orcs the most.
I don't disagree that making the game more positional is a good thing, I'm just not sure this really does it that well.
Because the flip side is that your Dwarfs and Orcs also no longer have their PO killers so they will kill less claw guys, and be left standing to get hit back... |
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Balle2000
Joined: Sep 25, 2008
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Mar 21, 2017 - 02:07 |
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lrb4 era of orc and dorf
crp reign of cpomb
bb16 elfer is coming |
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Dominik
Joined: Oct 29, 2004
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Mar 21, 2017 - 02:16 |
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No. The absence of Wizards and the increasing spread of Diving Tackle and Tentacles will be a high diasadvantage for Elves. |
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mrt1212
Joined: Feb 26, 2013
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Mar 21, 2017 - 03:42 |
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Dominik wrote: | No. The absence of Wizards and the increasing spread of Diving Tackle and Tentacles will be a high diasadvantage for Elves. |
To an extent yes, but if there's more elf bodies on the pitch, you can mitigate the invocation of some of these skills. I really do hope we see a sea change in meta.
That lack of a wizard is huge though. So many games won because you could get a wizard and tilt the game early. |
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ph0enyx13
Joined: Nov 14, 2015
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Mar 21, 2017 - 03:56 |
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DrPoods wrote: | Rabe wrote: | "... they'll require more skill... " |
I'll get my coat. |
Throw him out into the cold. Don't give him his coat. No coats. |
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licker
Joined: Jul 10, 2009
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Mar 21, 2017 - 05:48 |
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mrt1212 wrote: | Dominik wrote: | No. The absence of Wizards and the increasing spread of Diving Tackle and Tentacles will be a high diasadvantage for Elves. |
To an extent yes, but if there's more elf bodies on the pitch, you can mitigate the invocation of some of these skills. I really do hope we see a sea change in meta.
That lack of a wizard is huge though. So many games won because you could get a wizard and tilt the game early. |
Will there be more bodies though?
Elfs will see a lot more tackle/MB than they used to. Maybe it's time for them to stop taking dodge? |
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