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| How much work does the Chaos Renegade concept team need? |
| None - it's perfect! |
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24% |
[ 21 ] |
| Almost there (please state suggested improvements) |
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29% |
[ 26 ] |
| Needs a lot of work (please state suggested changes) |
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11% |
[ 10 ] |
| Bleagh! Scrap it and start again! |
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11% |
[ 10 ] |
| Forget the whole idea of Chaos Renegades |
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22% |
[ 20 ] |
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| Total Votes : 87 |
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Tinkywinky
Joined: Aug 25, 2003
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May 02, 2005 - 14:44 |
 
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Wouldn't this team be extremly weak with only two warriors? Almost the entire team would be made up of human linemen. You know that players aren't supposed to be priced for their skill access? Chaos beastmen is a good example of this. Team cost should be balanced for one-off games too. |
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sk8bcn
Joined: Apr 13, 2004
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Jun 02, 2005 - 09:33 |
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bump
is the team forgotten or kept as it is? |
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Colin
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jun 02, 2005 - 17:08 |
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Don't worry, I just have it on a back-burner atm.
Life has completely overtaken FUMBBL activity (what there was of it before) for me atm - I moved in with my bro for a spell; my gf had to rush off to Argentina to sort out a family crisis, and a visiting uncle borrowed my car, so it's handier to get to work from here - just as my bro's broadband broke down for the umpteenth time. The combination of no gf, car or broadband means I'm not the happiest camper atm, but my bro has a superb home theatre and coffee machine (the two are separate...), so there are compensations 
I get my car back on the 13th June, so you'll see more of me then. One thing Tinkywinky and I discussed was making mutants 0-6, as they barely qualified as positionals. Tinks was also keen on a price drop to 50k. Feel free to post commentary here on this or anything else. I'd also appreciate contributions on the thread over at bloodbowl.com, as it is an official GW forum. Word your posts there as enthusiastically as possible, please |
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Guzzrot_the_Belly
Joined: Jun 01, 2005
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Jun 02, 2005 - 20:56 |
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Looks pretty neat so far, but I really don't like the looks of that 1-20 table, it gives any player capable of rolling on it 3 shots at a stat increase. Now my mind is screaming "Shut up and take 'em!" but I think it would soon become an exceptionally strong team. |
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Arktoris
Joined: Feb 16, 2004
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Jun 02, 2005 - 21:15 |
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I would lose the mutant runners...as someone stated before...a mutant with VVL will do.
thugs av dropped to 7...that's the AV of an unarmored human which fits the description of a vagrant. I just don't see a vagrant being as tough as a dwarf. Then drop their cost to 40k.
drop the rr to 60k. I think the chaos team had 70k rr to reflect the beastmen's infighting...which doesn't carry over to this team.
Other than that, looks very promising : ) |
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Woodpecker
Joined: Apr 08, 2005
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Jun 02, 2005 - 21:28 |
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If this hasn't been suggested before, I have an idea: As the team seems very mutation themed, wouldn't it make sense to make the Big Guy a Spawn of Chaos? |
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Colin
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jun 03, 2005 - 17:31 |
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| Guzzrot_the_Belly wrote: | | Looks pretty neat so far, but I really don't like the looks of that 1-20 table. |
You aren't the only one. The only thing I will not consider is a change to my Mark of Chaos rules (see page 1 of thread). They are perfect, esp. on players without Strength skill access. You may disregard the D20 table.
I may consider dropping the Runners in exchange for 2 more Mutants, but that makes the team very bland and weak at TV100. If anyone can come up with a likely player to replace the Runner which is:
1. 0-2 in number, maybe quite expensive, but NOT Ag4 (can't have Str 4 and Ag 4 on the same team, Vamps not included)
2. Very fluffy and fluff-consistent (it exists somewhere in the Warhammer world - start combing your old Realm of Chaos books, people!)
3. Has a few skills and maybe unique skill/mutation combinations
then I'd be all ears. |
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Pat
Joined: May 23, 2005
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Jun 03, 2005 - 22:19 |
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Tinkywinky
Joined: Aug 25, 2003
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Jun 05, 2005 - 05:12 |
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I can't believe my eyes when I see people suggesting things like lowering the av of the linemen. This team is weak, not strong!
But to get this silly notion that mutants are comparable to positionals of other teams and to differenitiate the playing style of the team more from existing roster...
0-12 thugs 6338 50K GM
0-2 chaos warriors 5349 100K GSM
0-4 runners 7337 shadowing 70K GAM
0-1 big guy
Mark of chaos on all players.
This will make the team a lot more fun to play on low TR with a special feel. With only two warriors it will never become a dominant force on high tr but it should be able to grow into something interesting. I think you can get a very nice dynamic between the runners and warriors.
Mark of chaos is mostly a fluffy thing, it's really not that good. In the vault rules dauntless and frenzy becomes general skills! (+fend and wrestle becomes new options) |
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