Tedage
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Mar 21, 2003 - 10:50 |
 
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Ive got an idea, lets see the roll of the dice befeor we make the action... thats essentially what he wants... |
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Perox
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Mar 21, 2003 - 16:09 |
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I don't see any objection for such indicators, some people just have a little less mathematical affinity than others, or are just mathematically challenged 
I don't see the difference between someone who can figure out the rolls easily and someone else who can not, but just checks the indicator. Unless every wizzkid here is out to exploit their mathematical advantage...
Perox. |
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AsperonThorn
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Mar 22, 2003 - 00:30 |
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I certainly don't want another pop up box, how about a compromise.
Change the color of the cursor if it is a dodge into tacklezones. Currently it is what, red? Have it turn to blue when you are about to move into a tacklezone. Leave it so, a player still has to do the math, but he is now aware that there is a danger.
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Mar 22, 2003 - 09:20 |
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I agree that it'd be good to have the movement square turn red to indicate that your player has to make a dodge roll to move somewhere.
Although the icons look nice, it is sometimes easy to not notice a hostile player standing next to your guy ready to trip them up with your careless move. |
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UglyToy
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Mar 22, 2003 - 16:15 |
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Thats even worse than a box to tell you what you need to roll. If you dont see the player, you're not looking hard enough and you deserve to fall over, I know I've done it a few times but that was my own fault for not looking where my saurus was stood...
I do like the idea of the dodge roll indicator, would help me out a lot I can tell ya, the pass roll indicator would be good as well, just more helpful, after all it comes up in the chat window, but after you've rolled it. |
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AsperonThorn
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Mar 22, 2003 - 17:38 |
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| AsperonThorn wrote: |
Change the color of the cursor if it is a dodge into tacklezones.
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Instances where this would show up:
1. You are in a tacklezone, and are about to make a dodge into another tacklezone.
2. You are moving your player from point A to Point B, and you pass through a tacklezone, one that you don't necessarily have to.
Things that this solution would not effect:
1. Dodging out of a tacklezone into a "free" space. So not every attempt at a dodge would show up on this cursor.
2. Tell the player, how many tacklezones he is moving to, his target roll, or any other modifiers for that matter.
3. Tell a player whether or not any of the tacklers have Diving tackle, you are on your own with that.
Why it is a good compromise:
I don't know how you guys play at home, but when I am playing on the board, and someone looks to be taking a dumb dodge, or unnecessarily entering a tacklezone, I often say "You do realize there is a tacklezone in that square, don't you?" I don't tell him the guy has tackle, so his dodge skill is worthless. I don't tell him the guy has diving tackle so he is about to get F***'d. And I don't tell him that his saurus has no chance making that dodge. I simply remind him that he may be taking a risk out of carelessness.
In order to speed up play, in a situation in which a player can freely move from A to B, a player will just point at a path and move thier player. This is especcially prevalent, when all the action is taking place on the otherside of the pitch, and that is a "Non-Combat move." They can get to point B without making dodges following maybe 3 or 4 different paths, but for some reason have pointed to the ONE path that puts them through a tacklezone. If you were going to be strict about where they pointed, you are more than likely, going to end up in an argument "No I remember you distinctly pointed to THAT square. Rather than being intelligent and moving one square to the left."
Lastly, who wants to claim victory because of a misclick? Honestly. This battle over "mouse semantics" is ridiculous. You don't end up with these problems on a board.
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dorf
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Mar 23, 2003 - 05:36 |
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I'm not sure I like the idea of an indicator, but I would like to see a popup telling me when I've used the dodge skill during a move. I know it's in the text window but during the heat of the moment (cause it could be in the middle of a move) I don't realize it's happened and continue to take riskier moves than I would had I realized my dodge had been used.  |
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cjohnsto
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Mar 23, 2003 - 08:08 |
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look at the skills listed next to the player's portrait. If you have used dodge an asterik will appear next to dodge, I always look at it after i make a dodge and have more left to make. |
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absentmind
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Apr 12, 2003 - 15:14 |
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Its in the rulebook, read it.
AG3 normal agility roll is 4, so AG2 normal ag roll is 5 naturally.
AG2 pass:
-1 for longpass
-2 for longbomb
so longpass is 6+. Is that so hard to remember?
AG3 dodge:
normal agility roll:4+ dodge:+1 to the roll
tacklezones: -1 per TZ next to the square the player is moving INTO.
for ex. an AG3 player dodges into a square with 2 TZ in it.
Roll needed: 4 -1 +2=5
so he needs to roll 5 or more
and those who cant see the ghosted icons, go get glasses  |
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