CircularLogic
Joined: Aug 22, 2003
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Nov 10, 2008 - 15:45 |
 
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| Peter_Thorpe wrote: | i would say to implement a thing where your team cannot play the same race two games in a row, or somthing along those lines
at least then they'd be varity and you might no go bash-bash-bash-bash with an elf style team |
You would just go khemri/orc/dorfs/undead/khemri/orc/dorfs/undead in circles.
I`m thinking about ways to enhance racial diversity. If you devise a rule that you can`t play bashy more than twice in a row, you`ll run into another problem: If 90% of the teams fall into the bashy category, then 70%-80% can`t be matched, as they would result in permanently bash-on-bash-matches. |
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Tinkywinky
Joined: Aug 25, 2003
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Nov 10, 2008 - 15:52 |
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In the Swedish league we have put all races in three categories (bash, hybrid, ball) and instituted a rule that says that there can never be more than 40% of any type, or rather: when there is 40% or more of a certain type no more teams of that kind is let in.
Then again if so many people want to play bash teams you can just let them. Also people are allowed to have more than one team in the B division so our system won't work. |
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DukeTyrion
Joined: Feb 18, 2004
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Nov 10, 2008 - 15:55 |
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Or, Elves could just set themselves out to play unprepared bashers, by getting lots of blodgers, or even hiring a wizard each game before activating for a match up.
Worst case scenario they have a bad game and drop to 87 TS, where they would meet Vampires or Stunties  |
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Sinner
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Nov 10, 2008 - 15:58 |
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Well, I can see where this is going...
<whinemode>Ohhhh, too many bashers.... boohoo</whinemode>
Why restrict it. I will go (no time so far) to [B] because I love the challenge to play every race and try to win. Period. If you do not like to play any team that gets chosen, go pick your games in ranked.
As far as I understood [B] will be for non-picking brave coaches playing the game as it was meant to be.
(edited for spelling) |
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Tinkywinky
Joined: Aug 25, 2003
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Nov 10, 2008 - 16:00 |
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| DukeTyrion wrote: | Or, Elves could just set themselves out to play unprepared bashers, by getting lots of blodgers, or even hiring a wizard each game before activating for a match up.
Worst case scenario they have a bad game and drop to 87 TS, where they would meet Vampires or Stunties |
You are quite right. |
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CircularLogic
Joined: Aug 22, 2003
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Nov 10, 2008 - 16:04 |
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| Sinner wrote: | Well, I can see where this is going...
<whinemode>Ohhhh, too many bashers.... boohoo</whinemode>
Why restrict it. I will go (no time so far) to [B] because I love the challenge to play every race and try to win. Period. If you do not like to play any team that gets chosen, go pick your games in ranked.
As far as I understood [B] will be for non-picking brave coaches playing the game as it was meant to be.
(edited for spelling) |
This is true if the goal of every coach is trying to win every game. If there are coaches that take damage to the opponent over playing to win things go astray. [B] offers the ideal playground for the 'Kill over Win' type, as it removes one of the major problem such a coach is facing: That noone wants to play them outside of a tourney. |
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Stonetroll
Joined: Jun 30, 2005
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Nov 10, 2008 - 16:07 |
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As it was already said before, for me the most outstanding thing about the first games in blackbox was the good sportmanship and humour of every game. Everyone who entered expected the tough game and didn't complain about injuries or my completely unreal luck. This really seems like THE division as soon as it gets finished.
My team is still the biggest so I will be a filthy cherrypicker a while longer, but I think it has also helped to define the pairing formulas. One thing I thought of is that the bordering could be scaled to the team size, a 20TS difference is big against a new team but with 200+TR teams it isn't as much. Of course I don't know the formulas, but this is just my 2 cents worth. |
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Sinner
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Nov 10, 2008 - 16:45 |
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| CircularLogic wrote: | | Sinner wrote: | Well, I can see where this is going...
<whinemode>Ohhhh, too many bashers.... boohoo</whinemode>
Why restrict it. I will go (no time so far) to [B] because I love the challenge to play every race and try to win. Period. If you do not like to play any team that gets chosen, go pick your games in ranked.
As far as I understood [B] will be for non-picking brave coaches playing the game as it was meant to be.
(edited for spelling) |
This is true if the goal of every coach is trying to win every game. If there are coaches that take damage to the opponent over playing to win things go astray. [B] offers the ideal playground for the 'Kill over Win' type, as it removes one of the major problem such a coach is facing: That noone wants to play them outside of a tourney. |
You are right (omg... ;-D)
But a announced there will be something like CR (or better) which will be probably include a team reward which will make hurt teams focus on winning... We will see how it develops.
I will then just speak for myself by saying that I welcome the cahllenge to show hurt teams how to play this game 
Already made some DE... and humans |
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nin
Joined: May 27, 2005
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Nov 10, 2008 - 16:46 |
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FUN
I played just one, my Skaven vs Humans. I supose that from now on it'll be Dwarves... and I don't mind it at all.
I can't commit mishelf to scheduled games in [L]eague, so this seems like the best solution for me (I don't like [R]anked as it's).
Something that would be great, if the divB works, would be that teams in BB were allowed to get into official tournaments... or at least that there were some of those just for BB.
An XFL-BB could help with the "variety of races" thing.
...but for now it's just amazing. |
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CircularLogic
Joined: Aug 22, 2003
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Nov 10, 2008 - 16:49 |
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| Sinner wrote: | You are right (omg... ;-D)
But a announced there will be something like CR (or better) which will be probably include a team reward which will make hurt teams focus on winning... We will see how it develops.
I will then just speak for myself by saying that I welcome the cahllenge to show hurt teams how to play this game
Already made some DE... and humans |
I have no clue what the bolded part of your post should mean. What measure will make someone who doesn`t care about winning games focus on winning? |
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SillySod
Joined: Oct 10, 2006
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Nov 10, 2008 - 17:08 |
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It would be cool if blackbox rating was done by race. |
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Fallen00
Joined: Oct 16, 2008
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Nov 11, 2008 - 08:17 |
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well this is my first post -- and im glad it is in the blackbox division.. because blackbox rules!
I have to say im enjoying the blackbox environment a LOT more than ranked, its very nice not to worry about finding a game. Blackbox rules!
plus im beating coaches I would have never played in ranked! Blackbox rules!
blackbox forever! I kind of wish you ported this idea to other games(strategies game come to mind) that needs matchmaking. Having set hours for matches is awesome. Blackbox rules!
congratulations to all of you that thought about all of this. blackbox rules!
and remember kids, Blackbox rules |
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Sinner
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Nov 11, 2008 - 09:04 |
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| CircularLogic wrote: | | Sinner wrote: | You are right (omg... ;-D)
But a announced there will be something like CR (or better) which will be probably include a team reward which will make hurt teams focus on winning... We will see how it develops.
I will then just speak for myself by saying that I welcome the cahllenge to show hurt teams how to play this game
Already made some DE... and humans |
I have no clue what the bolded part of your post should mean. What measure will make someone who doesn`t care about winning games focus on winning? |
If the winner of some sort of comtest that will run over a certain amount of time will receive team money or players or e.g. a pick on the opponent table then probably coaches will switch to playing to win.
On the other hand they maybe will not.
But then in the long run kill teams will eventually kill each other off... with a 0-0 draw of course.
Seriously I can't forecast what the division will run into, but time will tell. It is alpha status and not final so we can expect some alterations in the near future. |
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Melmoth
Joined: May 05, 2004
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Nov 11, 2008 - 09:08 |
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played two games...did not have to wait....How great is that---All thumbs up christer;-) Cheers |
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Khaan
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Nov 11, 2008 - 09:29 |
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Had very good fun yesterday playing my brand new woodies vs some khemri. First block = dead woodie lino, followed by a foul BH on my treeman. It went downhill from there. ;(
I'll be back with more woodies though. I suck at em but I'll be damned if i give up. |
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