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kn00b



Joined: Jan 23, 2008

Post   Posted: Nov 16, 2008 - 07:28 Reply with quote Back to top

Step 1 - Apply at XX15 hours.
Step 2 - Bot selects the eight most evenly matched teams, and invites them to the group.
Step 3 - Apply to group with team.
Step 4 - SMACK away.

Surely this is some advanced Bot programming, but certainly possible. I think once [B] gets out of testing stages it's a very sexy possibility.

Thoughts?
KhorneliusPraxx



Joined: Jul 28, 2005

Post   Posted: Nov 16, 2008 - 08:30 Reply with quote Back to top

so...what happened to ranked? Sad

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pythrr



Joined: Mar 07, 2006

Post   Posted: Nov 16, 2008 - 08:31 Reply with quote Back to top

it died

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harvestmouse



Joined: May 13, 2007

Post   Posted: Nov 16, 2008 - 08:52 Reply with quote Back to top

How would a blackbox and a ranked smack be different?
Gatts



Joined: Jun 18, 2004

Post   Posted: Nov 16, 2008 - 10:21 Reply with quote Back to top

one would be filled with R teams, the other with B teams.

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JanMattys



Joined: Feb 29, 2004

Post   Posted: Nov 16, 2008 - 10:25 Reply with quote Back to top

I don't really see this as a good thing, not as long as there are few B teams.

Those who have little time playing two games in a row will certainly have less opponents. And those who have a lot of time for smacks will always choose the smack option over the regular B game.

EVERY B game would be a smack-like match... why add smacks to B?

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Gran



Joined: Jul 07, 2005

Post   Posted: Nov 16, 2008 - 10:56 Reply with quote Back to top

JanMattys wrote:
EVERY B game would be a smack-like match... why add smacks to B?


I very much agree with this, I don't think SMACKS in [B] is a good thing. In [R] SMACKS make sense because you take out a group of people who want to play a few competitive games against whoever might come their way (and they get a price if they win) from an environment where this type of game might not get played otherwise. This makes SMACKS special in [R], but in [B] this is the way the whole division works so it wouldn't make sense.

I've said this in another thread, and I still think it's a better idea:
Gran wrote:
Just off the top of my head: Why not moving the Championship to [B]? I haven't heard much talking about the Championship ever, as far as I can recall. It's not noted in your profile, no prizes are given and as far as I know it leads a rather anonymous existence in [R] with SMACKS and large tournaments being the focus of much of the attention. Another plus is the fact that the Championship doesn't rely on a specific team or race and as such would fit perfectly with the randomness of [B].


If we had a more official Championship in [B] people would get prices for competitive play, but without having to take away the randomness of opponent selection.

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mightyblow



Joined: Dec 20, 2007

Post   Posted: Nov 16, 2008 - 11:52 Reply with quote Back to top

/seconded
CircularLogic



Joined: Aug 22, 2003

Post   Posted: Nov 16, 2008 - 11:56 Reply with quote Back to top

How to quick-win a SMACK:
a) Save heaps of cash.
b) Have a deep bench with a few MNG.
c) Enter SMACK.

You will get evenly matched for the first game. Win this and second game you have your MNG back and can hire stars, so you should be so much stronger, so game 2 and the final should be a cakewalk.
Melmoth



Joined: May 05, 2004

Post   Posted: Nov 16, 2008 - 12:02 Reply with quote Back to top

CircularLogic wrote:
How to quick-win a SMACK:


Win this and second game you have your MNG back and can hire stars, so you should be so much stronger, so game 2 and the final should be a cakewalk.


Except other teams do the same;-)
JanMattys



Joined: Feb 29, 2004

Post   Posted: Nov 16, 2008 - 12:06 Reply with quote Back to top

Melmoth wrote:
CircularLogic wrote:
How to quick-win a SMACK:


Win this and second game you have your MNG back and can hire stars, so you should be so much stronger, so game 2 and the final should be a cakewalk.


Except other teams do the same;-)


Oh wow, an entire group of coaches metagaming will lead us to Even Happyland...
Rolling Eyes

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Melmoth



Joined: May 05, 2004

Post   Posted: Nov 16, 2008 - 12:07 Reply with quote Back to top

JanMattys wrote:
Melmoth wrote:
CircularLogic wrote:
How to quick-win a SMACK:


Win this and second game you have your MNG back and can hire stars, so you should be so much stronger, so game 2 and the final should be a cakewalk.


Except other teams do the same;-)


Oh wow, an entire group of coaches metagaming will lead us to Even Happyland...
Rolling Eyes


hehe...I dont see things that bad...Its possible in Smacks too to enter with frontloaded teams...but it doesnt happen all the time as many coaches just want to play....
DukeTyrion



Joined: Feb 18, 2004

Post   Posted: Nov 16, 2008 - 12:11 Reply with quote Back to top

If BR is included in the Matching formula for [B] then the 8 players for the smack will never be even anyway.

i suspect, after the initial fun of [B], coaches will get bored with teh BR aspect and go back to playing normal Smacks in [R] where they will ironically, get more even games.
PhrollikK



Joined: Nov 04, 2006

Post   Posted: Nov 16, 2008 - 14:28 Reply with quote Back to top

Personally I envisioned the Black Box to facilitate quick game-matching in [R], and still hope it will be so. But moving stuff from Ranked to BBox is stupid and pointless.

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Mr_Foulscumm



Joined: Mar 05, 2005

Post   Posted: Nov 16, 2008 - 14:52 Reply with quote Back to top

PhrollikK wrote:
Personally I envisioned the Black Box to facilitate quick game-matching in [R], and still hope it will be so. But moving stuff from Ranked to BBox is stupid and pointless.


Yeah the blackbox would have been a nice feature to add to [R] instead of a new div. Although, seeing as this is Alpha testing it probably needs its own division at the moment. I hope it will just get folded back into [R] once all the kinks have been worked out of the system.

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