Christer
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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For the record, most of the things were left unchanged. What changed prior as part of this announcement was that the BR and BBR parts were removed from the formula. Ie, 150.0 is used for both coaches as part of the win probability calculation, and the BBR part was removed entirely. This resulted in the distance formula being changed to reflect the removal of the BBR part.
All other weights and modifications were unchanged. It's trivial for me to modify the weights, which in all honesty were just random guesses on what seemed reasonable. For now, I don't see any major reason to change them.
However, the preferred team thing is something I am contemplating on modifying. I would happily implement a way to not prefer any team (easily done from a purely technical perspective), but I haven't figured out a good way to do it in the user interface. And to be honest, the issue is not very high on my list of priorities at the moment. |
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odi
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jan 26, 2009 - 12:45 |
 
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I'm just happy we got B, I dont really care that much for the details  |
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Chickenbrain
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jan 26, 2009 - 13:26 |
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Exactly. B made me start playing fumbbl again. Stop the cherry pickers.  |
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westerner
Joined: Jul 02, 2008
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Jan 26, 2009 - 15:17 |
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Looking forward to trying this out. |
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Celtic-Joker
Joined: May 08, 2007
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Jan 26, 2009 - 15:27 |
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I haven't followed the B formula discussion at all, but I really like the fact that there (now?) is a preferred team factor in it. Thanks for all the work! |
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sk8bcn
Joined: Apr 13, 2004
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Jan 26, 2009 - 16:49 |
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arg, then I don't care about the change. My biggest issues were on racial variety and on handicaps, and if the other factors were already in place previously, then it's not a fix after all.
About BR/BBR well, I didn't mind actually, it was more a question of intention of blackbox. I didn't mind about that . |
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clarkin
Joined: Oct 15, 2007
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Jan 26, 2009 - 18:30 |
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Games with handicaps now get a lower suitability score. I believe that's new |
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CircularLogic
Joined: Aug 22, 2003
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Jan 26, 2009 - 18:37 |
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Nope.. that has been in the formula. Yet you will see less games with handicaps, I believe. This is because the system doesn`t look for TS mismatches that offset BR mismatches but for TS matches as close as possible and in those handicaps are less common. |
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funnyfingers
Joined: Nov 13, 2005
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Jan 27, 2009 - 04:01 |
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4. Apply a small random factor (adding 0 - 0.02)
10. For each team that is NOT the preferred team for the respective coach, multiply suitability by 0.95
How do these 2 affect each other? Can the randomness make the preferance less? Your preferred team gets a random 0 and your non preferred get a .02 making the effective non preferred .97? not really sure how that math works. Just throwing it out there. |
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CircularLogic
Joined: Aug 22, 2003
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Jan 27, 2009 - 08:59 |
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If you thing about it - the random factor gives up to 20 points of siutability score. The score is usually in the 800-900 range so even if it`s low and only 700, the non-preferred malus will knock off 35 points. |
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pythrr
Joined: Mar 07, 2006
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Jan 27, 2009 - 09:02 |
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^^ smells suspiciously like maff. |
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Balle2000
Joined: Sep 25, 2008
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Jan 27, 2009 - 09:46 |
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A couple of questions for everyone (I'm not sure about the answers myself):
Doesn't removing the BBR (Blackbox Bash Rating) give milder conditions for teams focusing purely on slaughter?
If this is the case; wouldn't this formula change benefit those teams extra since the TS rebuff for 0/1 rerolls and Leader favours teams not focusing on ball handling?
Or do we care? |
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sk8bcn
Joined: Apr 13, 2004
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Jan 27, 2009 - 09:56 |
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| Balle2000 wrote: | A couple of questions for everyone (I'm not sure about the answers myself):
Doesn't removing the BBR (Blackbox Bash Rating) give milder conditions for teams focusing purely on slaughter?
If this is the case; wouldn't this formula change benefit those teams extra since the TS rebuff for 0/1 rerolls and Leader favours teams not focusing on ball handling?
Or do we care? |
Well anyway, if the BBR was per coach and not per team, it was a value that didn't make sense, don't you think? |
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Reisender
Joined: Sep 29, 2007
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Jan 27, 2009 - 10:10 |
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| Balle2000 wrote: | A couple of questions for everyone (I'm not sure about the answers myself):
Doesn't removing the BBR (Blackbox Bash Rating) give milder conditions for teams focusing purely on slaughter?
If this is the case; wouldn't this formula change benefit those teams extra since the TS rebuff for 0/1 rerolls and Leader favours teams not focusing on ball handling?
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the soel removal of BBR would, but note that BR is removed as well - pure slaughter teams tend to lose games and had low BR, giving milder conditions when ranking was still part of the formula (due to BBR being 0.3 compared to BR) |
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CircularLogic
Joined: Aug 22, 2003
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Jan 27, 2009 - 10:12 |
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| Balle2000 wrote: | A couple of questions for everyone (I'm not sure about the answers myself):
Doesn't removing the BBR (Blackbox Bash Rating) give milder conditions for teams focusing purely on slaughter?
If this is the case; wouldn't this formula change benefit those teams extra since the TS rebuff for 0/1 rerolls and Leader favours teams not focusing on ball handling?
Or do we care? |
Look at it this way:
Before if a team just killed and not scored, BBR would skyrocket, but BR would plummet. As BR counts ALOT more than BBR, those teams still got the TS advantage on average. Now those teams are paired like all others.
Edit: Damn... too slow :/ |
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