jarvis_pants
Joined: Oct 30, 2008
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I presume that just because you blacklist somebody dosent mean you wont get scheduled against them. Just wanted to check?
Could this be implemented? Or would it just be used to make the glorious [B] to much like wussie [R]?
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Mithrilpoint
Joined: Mar 16, 2004
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Jun 04, 2009 - 10:50 |
 
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This will not be implemented for the reasons you describe and for the risk of abuse.
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Were_M_Eye
Joined: Sep 24, 2007
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Jun 04, 2009 - 12:07 |
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It could, but it shouldn't be done. The hole point with the box is that you cant dodge anything.
If some one fouls and bash alot, well that is the point with the box. Coaches should play like they whant to play and still get games.
If you dont like it, go and pick some games in R.
If a coach is using abusive language, report it to the admin.
The sweet thing with the box is that all those mean bashy teams will sooner or later get to play another mean and bashy team. Then it whont be so fun for them anymore and they will go back and pick in R. |
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pythrr
Joined: Mar 07, 2006
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Jun 04, 2009 - 12:36 |
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stupid idea |
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odi
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jun 04, 2009 - 12:47 |
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| Were_M_Eye wrote: |
If some one fouls and bash alot, well that is the point with the box. |
I thought the point of B was to try and make a real competitive enviroment. Not sure if we managed though  |
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Ehlers
Joined: Jun 26, 2006
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Jun 04, 2009 - 13:05 |
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So the argument go: Pickers play in R
Then I guess most people on fumbbl are pickers since most games are played in R
But I would like to see a B coach play in R with his elves that would keep on playing claw&razor&tackle teams all the time. But I guess it wont happen for those hardcore loving B coaches. Because B is the only division where pickers are not in.
So yeah I will keep on picking in R. But maybe the correct word is not picking, but choosing your matches? Just a thought for those B coaches that think that R is the picker division. |
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SillySod
Joined: Oct 10, 2006
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Jun 04, 2009 - 18:29 |
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Being able to blacklist 1-3 coaches wouldnt be a bad thing. If you think you're going to be able to dodge all the fouling metagamers in the box by blacklisting three coaches... well.... |
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sk8bcn
Joined: Apr 13, 2004
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Jun 04, 2009 - 18:54 |
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| Ehlers wrote: | So the argument go: Pickers play in R
Then I guess most people on fumbbl are pickers since most games are played in R
But I would like to see a B coach play in R with his elves that would keep on playing claw&razor&tackle teams all the time. But I guess it wont happen for those hardcore loving B coaches. Because B is the only division where pickers are not in.
So yeah I will keep on picking in R. But maybe the correct word is not picking, but choosing your matches? Just a thought for those B coaches that think that R is the picker division. |
Bah Ehlers, most know that one can play different gamestyles in R. Most B coaches simply don't want to choose (pick is the same no?) game in R. |
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sk8bcn
Joined: Apr 13, 2004
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Jun 04, 2009 - 18:57 |
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Ehlers
Joined: Jun 26, 2006
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Jun 04, 2009 - 19:19 |
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| sk8bcn wrote: | | Ehlers wrote: | So the argument go: Pickers play in R
Then I guess most people on fumbbl are pickers since most games are played in R
But I would like to see a B coach play in R with his elves that would keep on playing claw&razor&tackle teams all the time. But I guess it wont happen for those hardcore loving B coaches. Because B is the only division where pickers are not in.
So yeah I will keep on picking in R. But maybe the correct word is not picking, but choosing your matches? Just a thought for those B coaches that think that R is the picker division. |
Bah Ehlers, most know that one can play different gamestyles in R. Most B coaches simply don't want to choose (pick is the same no?) game in R. |
Well if thats so, then why do people keep saying that people in R pick?
And no picking and choosing is not that same, well atleast not for me.
Pick:
Is where you pick a weak oppounent and only take those games you will win
Choose:
Is more loose then picking. You can say that you can choose to take only easy matches. But I would say that when you choose, it is wheather or not you think the game is fair.
I am just tirred of the attitude of people who says that people in R only pick.
The reason I think why lots of people dont play in the Box is because of the current system it works under.
A few reason why I dont play in the box.
1: Cant play with the team I want to play with if I have more then 1 team.
2: multiplied same race games. (I got tired of getting only orcs in a few games)
3. How teams are matched. They are not always fair, which something you actually can archieve in R
4. If I need a recovery match for my team. I could end up playing against someone who just want to kill teams (I am not a pixel hugger. But not having the chance of getting a fair amount of recovery games (if needed) seems to me just not right) |
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Wreckage
Joined: Aug 15, 2004
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Jun 04, 2009 - 19:26 |
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you forgot:
5. no point in developing teams since 6. there are no tournaments and also not planned either (if then only TR capped) |
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shadow46x2
Joined: Nov 22, 2003
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Jun 04, 2009 - 20:52 |
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| Were_M_Eye wrote: | | If some one fouls and bash alot, well that is the point with the box. |
um..no...
the "point" of the box was to create a competitive environment free of some of the flaws that ranked has...
of course hindsight being 20/20, with some of the attitudes and intentions of some coaches on fumbbl, it's impossible to create that environment...
| Ehlers wrote: | | But I would like to see a B coach play in R with his elves that would keep on playing claw&razor&tackle teams all the time. |
true story...
if all of you B coaches are so high and mighty, then why not prove that you're such a hardcore coach, and play an open schedule in ranked?...it's actually quite easy to avoid the few coaches who look for unfair matches....
and if B is so "picker" free....then why did most of the original B coaches(myself included) quit playing in B when the 0RR+Leader exploit was running rampant?....
if i may present one example....oh, and the coaches words regarding said team is fairly accurate to the mentality of such coaches...
<lawman> the TS formuala got changed, so I don't play the norse there anymore as it has no personality, no fun for me
if i may present a translation to the comment -> "i couldn't exploit the system anymore, and i couldn't get anymore unfair matches, so i quit playing the team"....
but that translation is just speculation...
long story short...
the same out of "picking" goes on in B...it has just evolved into a system that is effective within the blackbox....so get off your high horses, people
| SillySod wrote: | | Being able to blacklist 1-3 coaches wouldnt be a bad thing. If you think you're going to be able to dodge all the fouling metagamers in the box by blacklisting three coaches... well.... |
well seeing as how there's only 4 or 5 blackbox coaches that play.... 
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DukeTyrion
Joined: Feb 18, 2004
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Jun 05, 2009 - 00:02 |
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Well, there will be people that like the Box and there will be people that don't.
[R]anked is a great division and has some amazing tournaments, but I kind of got bored of the 'negotiation' that goes into every game, which become quite tough to get when your CR passes a point. With [B]lackbox I get a game straight away and it always seems to have that 'edge' that's missing outside of non-tourney [R] games.
There were some things that annoyed me, but the DP TS and the 0 RR reroll adjustments have been made. All I need is the ability to rest a team and maybe a Major and [B] will be almost perfect.
However, [B] was never really supposed to be for everyone, if people like [R] then great, if they prefer [B] then great. At the end of the day, [B] is as popular as [L] so it is a success. As for the number of active [B] coaches there are at least 20 most night, 8 players often get scheduled while 6 other games are in progress.
As for the subject of the post I think no-one should be able to avoid any games, for any reason. |
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paulhicks
Joined: Jul 19, 2004
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Jun 05, 2009 - 00:41 |
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| odi wrote: | | Were_M_Eye wrote: |
If some one fouls and bash alot, well that is the point with the box. |
I thought the point of B was to try and make a real competitive enviroment. Not sure if we managed though |
yep... i'd say the "lets cram it full of bashing and fouling" was more of a forseeable and inevitable consequence rather than a deliberate intention. |
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DukeTyrion
Joined: Feb 18, 2004
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Jun 05, 2009 - 00:46 |
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| paulhicks wrote: |
yep... i'd say the "lets cram it full of bashing and fouling" was more of a forseeable and inevitable consequence rather than a deliberate intention. |
My teams seem to do okay, and they are all AV7 |
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