elfbowler
Joined: Sep 13, 2008
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Nov 03, 2009 - 11:51 |
 
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stupid: setting all guys side by side on the line... |
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Shraaaag
Joined: Feb 15, 2004
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Nov 03, 2009 - 11:55 |
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| Panda_ wrote: | You need a way to get a opposite player surrounded by yours. Without:
- a Blitz
- a Quick Snap
- Frenzy
- Grab
- 11 Movement
You can't do. |
You forgot Throw Team Mate ;P You wont need to chainpush anyone, but neither does 11 movement.
If you want to chainpush someone to score without using blitz, you'll need to set up a double push. In other words a block that pushes a player into another player into your intended scorer. |
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Eghost
Joined: Oct 19, 2003
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Nov 03, 2009 - 11:56 |
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Then it seems most coaches are not so smart. And MA6 requires a blitz which wasnt the question from the OP.
| Grod wrote: | I am sorry, but the "not so smart opponent" is not fair. Most coaches use 3 players together on the LOS plus a line 3 squares back from the end-zone. Against that, it works perfectly. Also, you can go as low as MA 6, even without frenzy (google for a youtube video).
| Eghost wrote: | | MA9 will do, and a not so smart opponent. MA8 and frenzy, obviously. |
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fly
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Nov 03, 2009 - 12:01 |
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well, i saw the mentioned FC game as well. it was a natural oneturner for who the way was cleared. |
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zakatan
Joined: May 17, 2008
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Nov 03, 2009 - 12:14 |
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it is possible with ma8 too, i just made it in standalone
see if i can reproduce it an put some screenshots |
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Grod
Joined: Sep 30, 2003
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Nov 03, 2009 - 12:21 |
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one turn TD, Ma 6, NO FRENZY, FTW (ok with a blitz, but still)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7938217389287737034&hl=en#
| Eghost wrote: | Then it seems most coaches are not so smart. And MA6 requires a blitz which wasnt the question from the OP.
| Grod wrote: | I am sorry, but the "not so smart opponent" is not fair. Most coaches use 3 players together on the LOS plus a line 3 squares back from the end-zone. Against that, it works perfectly. Also, you can go as low as MA 6, even without frenzy (google for a youtube video).
| Eghost wrote: | | MA9 will do, and a not so smart opponent. MA8 and frenzy, obviously. |
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zakatan
Joined: May 17, 2008
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Nov 03, 2009 - 12:51 |
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here we go:
<img src="http://i34.tinypic.com/30ng2gg.jpg" border="0" alt="Image and video hosting by TinyPic"> <img src="http://i34.tinypic.com/2uyje2t.jpg" border="0" alt="Image and video hosting by TinyPic"> <img src="http://i38.tinypic.com/20tjs76.jpg" border="0" alt="Image and video hosting by TinyPic"> <img src="http://i37.tinypic.com/55jzu1.jpg" border="0" alt="Image and video hosting by TinyPic"> <img src="http://i35.tinypic.com/2lb0zdv.jpg" border="0" alt="Image and video hosting by TinyPic">
that's it. requires also some +st or guards to have a decent chance of success in the first block and a collaborative opponent |
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nazgob
Joined: Oct 31, 2008
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Nov 03, 2009 - 12:56 |
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@zakatan: that sounds interesting - thanks a lot!
let me explain the theory behind my original post.
if your opponent sets up right, on a OTT (not using TTM), you should have do do 3 dodges, all into 2 Tackle Zones. in certain circumstances, it is more sensible (in terms of probability) to blitz through that defensive line rather than dodge. i.e. if the ball carrier has block, is str4, has frenzy or you're playing stunties.
the problem is being able to blitz with the ball carrier and still score, hence the conversation. |
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Zombie69
Joined: Jul 02, 2007
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Nov 03, 2009 - 18:35 |
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Personally, i always try to OTS with the blitz being done by the scorer if i can, to avoid a lot of dodges. So yes, i've done it this way pretty often. And yes, setting up the 3 LoS guys side by side is pretty dumb. If they don't, you have one more block to make (to bring them side by side). |
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ryanfitz
Joined: Mar 24, 2009
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Nov 03, 2009 - 18:46 |
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It is very doable what MA are you looking for? |
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Dolls
Joined: Jul 26, 2006
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Sep 10, 2010 - 11:50 |
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Ma 7 chainpush without using a blitz is doable. Needs three guys close together from the defense and 10 guys + 1 to pick up. And the placement of the guys just moving in to help isn't optimal in this sequence. But it's doable.
(and the dice didn't help in this try, so some of the guys who already had an action aren't transparent in the latter stages)
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zakatan
Joined: May 17, 2008
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Sep 10, 2010 - 11:57 |
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next time you can use kalimar's client in test mode, so that you can actually roll exactly what you need  |
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