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gken1



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Feb 27, 2004 - 15:14 Reply with quote Back to top

Just got this e-mail from Jim Lanier who sent it out to all Gumpta Cup tourney invites. It comes from the new head of Blood bowl Jake thornton.
Looks like Minotaurs just got their balls back.

Ken

> Hi all,
>
> a quick note on the Wild Animal front.
>
> After continued debate (and no bribery or threats at all - honest), Jervis
> has settled on pretty much what Chet's been touting for changes. The
> following is what will be published as the WA amendments in the LRB3 and
> in Fanatic magazine as part of the BB Rules Review. This is somewhat
> unusual in terms of being after the event, so to speak, but it was felt in
> general that the WA settled on earlier was unsatisfactory.
>
> Wild Animal is now:
>
> "Wild Animals are uncontrollable creatures that rarely do exactly what a
> coach wants of them. In fact, just about all you can really rely on them
> to do is lash out at opposing players that move too close to them! To
> represent this, when you declare an action with a Wild Animal, roll a D6
> adding +2 to the roll if taking a Block, Blitz or Foul action. On a roll
> of 1-3, the Wild Animal stands still and roars in rage instead, and the
> action is wasted. Note that the Wild Animal no longer has to move first
> and that he can now use assists. Also note that no dice roll is required
> for the Wild Animal to turn face-up when stunned."
>
> You heard it here first...
>
> All the best
>
> Jake Thornton
>
> (Head of System: Blood Bowl)
>
> PS: I'm going to do my level best to get LRB3 up during next week. It's a
> deadline week for the magazine too, so wish me luck. Can't see me getting
> much sleep though Surprised(
Waiwode



Joined: Feb 10, 2004

Post   Posted: Feb 27, 2004 - 15:21 Reply with quote Back to top

W00t! One round of 0-1 Minotaurs for all my friends!

LOL.

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Christer



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Feb 27, 2004 - 15:31
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great.. I'll have my minotaurs declare foul and then "change their mind" and not do the actual foul roll.. yay for 2+ movement..
Chickenbrain



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Feb 27, 2004 - 15:32 Reply with quote Back to top

Cheater Wink

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m0nty



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Feb 27, 2004 - 15:35 Reply with quote Back to top

If true, that would be stupid on so many levels. To explain what Christer means, you can choose a foul action and not actually go through with the foul (thus not attracting an IGMEOY roll) so assuming you don't want to use the foul action for actually fouling, the coach of a WA would normally use up the foul action to move the WA as normal with the +2 bonus to the roll - making WA wholly indistinguishable from Bone Head. Why not just remove WA and give minos and rat ogres Bone Head?
Severian



Joined: Dec 12, 2003

Post   Posted: Feb 27, 2004 - 15:39 Reply with quote Back to top

IF (playerType = WA)
allowChangeAction = false;
Deacon



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Feb 27, 2004 - 15:41 Reply with quote Back to top

Not a lot of thought behind this one.

As Christer points out, the NEW rule is just too open to abuse. Minotaurs may now stand up for free, move around normally all by just declaring a Foul action.

Bad rule. Sad
Mully



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Feb 27, 2004 - 15:43 Reply with quote Back to top

uh ohh ..... Christer just opened up a can of worms ....

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Gobbas



Joined: Feb 14, 2004

Post   Posted: Feb 27, 2004 - 15:43 Reply with quote Back to top

or why not just remove that they get +2 on foul action and just keep that on block and blitz
Severian



Joined: Dec 12, 2003

Post   Posted: Feb 27, 2004 - 15:44 Reply with quote Back to top

On second thought (and reading the other posts again) i can see where it's not so simple as disallowing a change of action. Could make it...no 2+ bonus on Foul actions.

Obviously this is just a JavaClient problem right? If you declared a foul then rescinded your choice after the WA had moved in a REAL life game...what's the ruling in that case?
m0nty



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Feb 27, 2004 - 15:48 Reply with quote Back to top

Severian, if you read the LRB on page 24, they mention taking "a foul action", but the IGMEOY only applies when you "commit a foul". You can do one and not the other. A foul action allows a player to commit a foul, but nowhere is it stipulated that the player has to actually commit a foul.
Doowa



Joined: Nov 25, 2003

Post   Posted: Feb 27, 2004 - 15:50 Reply with quote Back to top

Unless the mighty SkiJunkie can program his way out of this cheat options, can't we just report players who abuse this? It'll be easy noticable on the replay won't it?

Gobbas wrote:
or why not just remove that they get +2 on foul action and just keep that on block and blitz

That would be an ofc rule change... Not the best solution IMO. What if the beast really wanna foul Smile

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Severian



Joined: Dec 12, 2003

Post   Posted: Feb 27, 2004 - 15:51 Reply with quote Back to top

m0nty wrote:
Severian, if you read the LRB on page 24, they mention taking "a foul action", but the IGMEOY only applies when you "commit a foul". You can do one and not the other. A foul action allows a player to commit a foul, but nowhere is it stipulated that the player has to actually commit a foul.


Right right thanks for that...but I wonder how this solution to WA is going to affect live games. Will it just be frowned upon if you take advantage of the +2 by "faking" the intention to foul? It doesn't seem like they took that into account with the rule if there are no repercussions for not following through with a foul AFTER you get the +2 bonus. Like everyone says...it's just like a bonehead roll when it comes to movement.
Jarnageddon



Joined: Nov 04, 2003

Post   Posted: Feb 27, 2004 - 15:51 Reply with quote Back to top

I often choose foul when dodging from a diving tackler to attempt to persuade them not to dive and sometimes just so I can kick them in the head when they do Very Happy

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AeoN2



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Feb 27, 2004 - 15:51 Reply with quote Back to top

Am I the only one who thought WA was best as they were in the old LRB? maybe a tad overpowered, but not compared to other balance issues in BB...

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