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dode74



Joined: Aug 14, 2009

Post   Posted: Dec 05, 2011 - 16:44 Reply with quote Back to top

Probably because everyone gets to cherrypick, making it equitable.

Can't imagine where you got that avatar Matt Wink
MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Dec 05, 2011 - 16:51 Reply with quote Back to top

But not all coaches are aware of their teams' strengths and weaknesses, many people are not able to cherrypick in the same way, making the cherrypick system unfair. Another issue is that many teams dodge unfair matches, for example a sensible Amazon coach won't never ever play against Dwarfs and Chaos Dwarfs in Ranked.

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BooAhl



Joined: Sep 02, 2004

Post   Posted: Dec 05, 2011 - 16:54 Reply with quote Back to top

pythrr wrote:
dode74 wrote:
An "accord" is an agreement, so I can only assume that "according" is agreeing, and therefore a match system based on agreeing to a game.

It is unsurprising that you are unaware of a synonym for "agree" Wink


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Were_M_Eye



Joined: Sep 24, 2007

Post   Posted: Dec 05, 2011 - 17:08 Reply with quote Back to top

BooAhl wrote:
pythrr wrote:
dode74 wrote:
An "accord" is an agreement, so I can only assume that "according" is agreeing, and therefore a match system based on agreeing to a game.

It is unsurprising that you are unaware of a synonym for "agree" Wink


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RandomOracle



Joined: Jan 11, 2004

Post   Posted: Dec 05, 2011 - 17:08 Reply with quote Back to top

MattDakka wrote:
There is one objection I would say to the "play in the Blackbox" advice: in Blackbox there are far less teams than in Ranked, so you have to wait for ages, especially for people who live in certain timezones.
A larger teams' pool would be the best in order to reduce the time for finding a match.


Although I'm certain there are more Ranked teams due to the long history of the division, Blackbox sees about the same amount of games played as Ranked. However, your point about timezones is true as it can be difficult to get a Blackbox draw when there are few coaches around.
pythrr



Joined: Mar 07, 2006

Post   Posted: Dec 05, 2011 - 17:32 Reply with quote Back to top

Were_M_Eye wrote:
BooAhl wrote:
pythrr wrote:
dode74 wrote:
An "accord" is an agreement, so I can only assume that "according" is agreeing, and therefore a match system based on agreeing to a game.

It is unsurprising that you are unaware of a synonym for "agree" Wink


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Hitonagashi



Joined: Apr 09, 2006

Post   Posted: Dec 05, 2011 - 17:34 Reply with quote Back to top

pythrr wrote:
Were_M_Eye wrote:
BooAhl wrote:
pythrr wrote:
dode74 wrote:
An "accord" is an agreement, so I can only assume that "according" is agreeing, and therefore a match system based on agreeing to a game.

It is unsurprising that you are unaware of a synonym for "agree" Wink


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i^2



math is fun

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pythrr



Joined: Mar 07, 2006

Post   Posted: Dec 05, 2011 - 17:38 Reply with quote Back to top

dode74 wrote:
Pythrr, I don't believe we are responsible for your grasp of English.



Um, yes you are. Did you not read the rules that you signed when you joined the site?
uuni



Joined: Mar 12, 2010

Post   Posted: Dec 05, 2011 - 17:42 Reply with quote Back to top

RandomOracle wrote:
MattDakka wrote:
There is one objection I would say to the "play in the Blackbox" advice: in Blackbox there are far less teams than in Ranked, so you have to wait for ages, especially for people who live in certain timezones.
A larger teams' pool would be the best in order to reduce the time for finding a match.


Although I'm certain there are more Ranked teams due to the long history of the division, Blackbox sees about the same amount of games played as Ranked. However, your point about timezones is true as it can be difficult to get a Blackbox draw when there are few coaches around.

The Box activity per hour is found in here (click games per hour tab): https://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=stats&div=10

Edit: Well actually it didn't work as I though. Sorry!
koadah



Joined: Mar 30, 2005

Post   Posted: Dec 05, 2011 - 17:45 Reply with quote Back to top

pythrr wrote:
dode74 wrote:
Pythrr, I don't believe we are responsible for your grasp of English.



Um, yes you are. Did you not read the rules that you signed when you joined the site?


Any rule in particular?

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pythrr



Joined: Mar 07, 2006

Post   Posted: Dec 05, 2011 - 17:48 Reply with quote Back to top

koadah wrote:
pythrr wrote:
dode74 wrote:
Pythrr, I don't believe we are responsible for your grasp of English.



Um, yes you are. Did you not read the rules that you signed when you joined the site?


Any rule in particular?


Just the important ones.
koadah



Joined: Mar 30, 2005

Post   Posted: Dec 05, 2011 - 18:09 Reply with quote Back to top

bluh bluh bluh

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shadow46x2



Joined: Nov 22, 2003

Post   Posted: Dec 05, 2011 - 18:11 Reply with quote Back to top

dode74 wrote:
It is unsurprising that you are unaware of a synonym for "agree" Wink


i see what you did there....

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shadow46x2



Joined: Nov 22, 2003

Post   Posted: Dec 05, 2011 - 18:17 Reply with quote Back to top

but on a serious note...here's how you "fix" ranked...but before you even bother reading any further, understand that this system will never work...

to fix ranked, it requires coaches playing in the system to stop being greedy, and to both offer, and accept, fair matches...which for the most part, across the board, does not happen...

that's not to say that there are no coaches that offer fair matches, because there are...there are quite a few of them actually...but as a whole, coaches are going to look out for their own best interest, and that means looking for a match where they feel they have an advantage, or they feel they can win...

it's human nature to look out for your own benefit before others...the majority of offered matches on here, i would wager, are biased towards one side or the other...

to fix it, simply offer and accept fair matches....

but again, don't hold your breath for it to ever happen...

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