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Sutherlands



Joined: Aug 01, 2009

Post   Posted: Dec 05, 2011 - 17:21 Reply with quote Back to top

As has been mentioned in other threads, it can be pretty hard getting a game in blackbox in N/S American timezones, particularly on the west coast. So many times I'll activate for an hour straight, seeing:
"2 coaches activated",
"3 coaches activated",
"4 coaches activated, not enough possible matches",
"2 coaches activated"

I believe the reason for this requirement is so that coaches don't just get matched up against the same people every time and/or so that people don't try to game the system. Since most activations in the box (overall) have multiple coaches, this wouldn't affect other TZs all that much, but it would allow us late TZ N. Americans to actually get in a game. With 3/4 coaches it gives games to those actually activating multiple teams. Could the system be gamed by 2 coaches looking for a ranked-style matchup? Sure, but they can already do that by activating 2 teams that are very close in TV (as the odds are high they will be matched, even with 4+ teams).
Calthor



Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Location: Haarlem, The Netherlands

Post   Posted: Dec 05, 2011 - 17:48 Reply with quote Back to top

Too easy for abuse... It has already been moved from a minimum of 6 to 4, don't think it'll ever go down further.

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blader4411



Joined: Oct 18, 2009

Post   Posted: Dec 05, 2011 - 17:57 Reply with quote Back to top

2 coaches will allow people to schedule games during lean time periods.

Totally against the point of Blackbox, so it should never go down below a required 2 match-ups.

-Blader
pythrr



Joined: Mar 07, 2006
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Post   Posted: Dec 05, 2011 - 18:08 Reply with quote Back to top

Move to a more populated area.

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shadow46x2



Joined: Nov 22, 2003

Post   Posted: Dec 05, 2011 - 18:09
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no

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Azure



Joined: Jan 30, 2007

Post   Posted: Dec 05, 2011 - 18:28 Reply with quote Back to top

Making the minimum 2 coaches is not bad...but I think we should make the minimum 1 coach. Yes - definitely 1 coach Razz
Qaz



Joined: Apr 28, 2004
Location: Malmö Sweden (Danish citizen)

Post   Posted: Dec 05, 2011 - 18:41 Reply with quote Back to top

Can I have free wins?

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Sutherlands



Joined: Aug 01, 2009

Post   Posted: Dec 05, 2011 - 18:44 Reply with quote Back to top

"2 coaches will allow people to schedule games during lean time periods." - If by "schedule" you mean "play".

If someone wanted to pick their games, why would they even bother with blackbox? Why is this such a fear that someone is going to come into blackbox, and stay up into the middle of the night so that they can play their friend?
Qaz



Joined: Apr 28, 2004
Location: Malmö Sweden (Danish citizen)

Post   Posted: Dec 05, 2011 - 19:04 Reply with quote Back to top

I just want free wins. Is that so much to ask?

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Woodstock



Joined: Dec 11, 2004
Location: Netherlands

Post   Posted: Dec 05, 2011 - 19:05
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Sutherlands wrote:
"2 coaches will allow people to schedule games during lean time periods." - If by "schedule" you mean "play".

If someone wanted to pick their games, why would they even bother with blackbox? Why is this such a fear that someone is going to come into blackbox, and stay up into the middle of the night so that they can play their friend?


Because it goes against the spirit of the box?... The fact that you can pick your game makes the scheduler obsolete... so why bother with Box? Go Ranked.
Beerox



Joined: Feb 14, 2008

Post   Posted: Dec 05, 2011 - 19:48 Reply with quote Back to top

I often enjoy the North American late night viewing of "not enough coaches to start" and "not enough possible matches" as well.
Synn



Joined: Dec 13, 2004
Location: Here but far gone in a metaphysical way....

Post   Posted: Dec 05, 2011 - 19:59 Reply with quote Back to top

If you wanted to increase the chances of getting a matchup..... we could always just switch from activations every 15 mins back to activates every 30 mins..... Smile

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Sutherlands



Joined: Aug 01, 2009

Post   Posted: Dec 05, 2011 - 20:29 Reply with quote Back to top

Woodstock wrote:
Sutherlands wrote:
"2 coaches will allow people to schedule games during lean time periods." - If by "schedule" you mean "play".

If someone wanted to pick their games, why would they even bother with blackbox? Why is this such a fear that someone is going to come into blackbox, and stay up into the middle of the night so that they can play their friend?


Because it goes against the spirit of the box?... The fact that you can pick your game makes the scheduler obsolete... so why bother with Box? Go Ranked.
Nobody is JOINING blackbox in order to sidestep the scheduler. People are joining blackbox because they like the scheduler, and then not getting games. If we went to 1 match, nobody would join blackbox and then sidestep the scheduler because they want ranked.

The "minimum 2 matches" is a solution in search of a problem.

Synn wrote:
If you wanted to increase the chances of getting a matchup..... we could always just switch from activations every 15 mins back to activates every 30 mins..... Smile

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Wouldn't help when it's the same people activating every time Sad
spinball



Joined: Jul 01, 2004

Post   Posted: Dec 05, 2011 - 20:32 Reply with quote Back to top

Sutherlands wrote:

"4 coaches activated, not enough possible matches",
'

I would like to see if this happens

A vs B

C and D not scheduled if they are too far apart

So at least 1 game gets scheduled but 4 coaches joined
Sutherlands



Joined: Aug 01, 2009

Post   Posted: Dec 05, 2011 - 20:44 Reply with quote Back to top

spinball wrote:
Sutherlands wrote:

"4 coaches activated, not enough possible matches",
'

I would like to see if this happens

A vs B

C and D not scheduled if they are too far apart

So at least 1 game gets scheduled but 4 coaches joined

That would be nice as well.
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