JimmyFantastic
Joined: Feb 06, 2007
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Jan 15, 2013 - 13:28 |
 
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Give them some human throwers to fit the fluff.
They shouldn't be this bad, they won the Bloodbowl once! |
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plasmoid
Joined: Nov 03, 2009
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Jan 15, 2013 - 14:28 |
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Hi Kam,
It means that previously in NTBB Right Stuff had the additional ability to let the player ignore Tackle when blocked.
That ability has since been moved to Titchy.
Meaning snots had the ability all along. And TTM is completely unaffected.
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PaddyMick
Joined: Jan 03, 2012
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Jan 15, 2013 - 14:50 |
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What are the chances of something actually changing, and where would it come from?
This thread has got me hopefull |
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Overhamsteren
Joined: May 27, 2006
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Jan 15, 2013 - 14:56 |
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I think snotlings are awesome and should be kept, 10k reduction for ogres and rerolls and +ma and +av to snotlings sounds good.
If tackle should ever be 'ignored' it should be so the snotlings could always reroll their dodge rolls, I hate the idea of blodgers that can't be taken down with tackle.
Upping the max number of ogres to 8 or 10 or 12 sounds good too for high TV play. |
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PaddyMick
Joined: Jan 03, 2012
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Jan 15, 2013 - 14:59 |
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| Overhamsteren wrote: |
If tackle should ever be 'ignored' it should be so the snotlings could always reroll their dodge rolls, I hate the idea of blodgers that can't be taken down with tackle. |
I see your point but they rarely have block and are usually up against 3d blocks. Your not going to have a team full of blodgers and even if you did they wouldnt survive long anyway. |
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xnoelx
Joined: Jun 05, 2012
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Jan 15, 2013 - 15:00 |
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| PaddyMick wrote: | What are the chances of something actually changing, and where would it come from?
This thread has got me hopefull |
Slim to none, and it would come from GW. *stamps on hope* |
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Duder
Joined: Mar 13, 2012
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Jan 15, 2013 - 15:11 |
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Even if nothing is ever officially changed - great ideas for table top house rules  |
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maysrill
Joined: Dec 29, 2008
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Jan 15, 2013 - 15:11 |
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Ogres were fine in LRB4. Go back to that roster and you're all set.
They were a bashy team that was "bad" because of crazy overcosted players, total lack of G access aside from doubles, Boneheaded all over the place, and 70k rerolls.
Played superbly, they could be competitive, but they were still a "bottom 4" roster. That they won a B major said more about vicious than it did about the roster.
If they were as-was in B, they would get mangled by claw teams, but might actually hit back due to a healthy raw strength advantage. They would get run around by the few elf teams, just like they always have and always will. They will manage to hold their own against slow, strong teams that they can slug it out with, like khemri, dwarfs, and orcs. |
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Hitonagashi
Joined: Apr 09, 2006
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Jan 15, 2013 - 15:21 |
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| maysrill wrote: |
If they were as-was in B, they would get mangled by claw teams, but might actually hit back due to a healthy raw strength advantage. They would get run around by the few elf teams, just like they always have and always will. They will manage to hold their own against slow, strong teams that they can slug it out with, like khemri, dwarfs, and orcs. |
I think they'd mangle claw teams. I always found Ogres were in that nice point where they'd beat up hard on Chaos/Nurgle, but lose badly to elves.
I thought they occupied a nice niche (smashing the Chaos down), and would still occupy it in LRB 6. Sad to see them nerfed. |
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JimmyFantastic
Joined: Feb 06, 2007
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Jan 15, 2013 - 15:24 |
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+1 to Hito. Bring back the Brogres! |
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Chainsaw
Joined: Aug 31, 2005
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Jan 15, 2013 - 15:25 |
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maysrill
Joined: Dec 29, 2008
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Jan 15, 2013 - 15:39 |
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| Hitonagashi wrote: | | maysrill wrote: |
If they were as-was in B, they would get mangled by claw teams, but might actually hit back due to a healthy raw strength advantage. They would get run around by the few elf teams, just like they always have and always will. They will manage to hold their own against slow, strong teams that they can slug it out with, like khemri, dwarfs, and orcs. |
I think they'd mangle claw teams. I always found Ogres were in that nice point where they'd beat up hard on Chaos/Nurgle, but lose badly to elves.
I thought they occupied a nice niche (smashing the Chaos down), and would still occupy it in LRB 6. Sad to see them nerfed. |
Nope. They can't win a war of attrition if both sides are taking losses. Singling out and clawbombing ogres one at a time is remarkably effective.
Remember as well, that a developed ogre team would be giving away hundreds in inducements even to shredding-machines like EoE or ChuckVsBloodowl. When I brought my grandfathered ogres to CRP, even with the goblins reduced to snots, they were 2900+ TV.
Ogres occupy the middle ground. They can't handle claw teams (too easy to knock down, with little Block and almost no Dodge). They can't handle elves (rarely any Tackle or SB). They have to work the middle against bashy non-claw teams. Even then, they often lost because of inopportune boneheadedness. |
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Hitonagashi
Joined: Apr 09, 2006
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Jan 15, 2013 - 15:46 |
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It can be remarkably effective, but the best defense against clawbomb is a) high ST, and b) Thick Skull.
It wouldn't be a no brainer clawbomb victory, the ogre coach would have to play it carefully, but they have more protection than most do against it. Your same desscription and tactics sums up every game the clawbomb teams play, and the bashier races (let's say, Orcs/Dwarves/Lizardmen) still do fine against it. Of course they'd lose every now and again, but I think they could do really well. |
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Mephistodragonbane
Joined: Nov 26, 2012
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Jan 15, 2013 - 15:55 |
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I like the idea of the pump wagon being added. 10k cheaper on ogre's and re-roll's is very fair. Snotlings are meant to be a fun team (like goblins) you don't play them to win, you play them to have fun. I'm sure it would still be possible to win but you'd have to get lucky. |
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neoliminal
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jan 15, 2013 - 16:24 |
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Ogre fluff stands. They are the worst while on paper should be amazing. |
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