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Chainsaw



Joined: Aug 31, 2005

Post   Posted: Jan 15, 2013 - 16:32 Reply with quote Back to top

neoliminal wrote:
Ogre fluff stands. They are the worst while on paper should be amazing.

That makes no sense. On paper, their current roster is garbage. Wink

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ilpars



Joined: Nov 14, 2012

Post   Posted: Jan 15, 2013 - 16:51 Reply with quote Back to top

I like those suggestions:

Replace the name snotlings with Gnoblar with +1 MA +1 AV to snotling stats.
Make rerolls 10k cheaper.
Add 1 Ogre player and 2 Gnoblar player with G access.

These are not much, will not improve Ogre team too much but make them a little more capable.
Mr_Foulscumm



Joined: Mar 05, 2005

Post   Posted: Jan 15, 2013 - 17:04 Reply with quote Back to top

xnoelx wrote:
PaddyMick wrote:
I've been playing almost exclusively Ogres recently and it's been the most fun I've had playing BB.

I rest my case.


Ogres are shit and they should be shit because 2 people enjoy playing shit teams... that sums it up?

Oh please do, because your case is awful and boring Very Happy

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Chainsaw



Joined: Aug 31, 2005

Post   Posted: Jan 15, 2013 - 17:06 Reply with quote Back to top

Mr_Foulscumm wrote:
xnoelx wrote:
I rest my case.


Ogres are shit and they should be shit because 2 people enjoy playing shit teams... that sums it up?

Oh please do, because your case is awful and boring Very Happy


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Mephistodragonbane



Joined: Nov 26, 2012

Post   Posted: Jan 15, 2013 - 17:46 Reply with quote Back to top

Snotlings aren't known for having great armour or agility though. so a plus to any of those is unrealistic (although speaking of realisitic about a fantasy team seems silly but ah well..)

The team should be called Snotlings rather than Ogres for sure.

They should have +1 MA to Snotlings.
10k cheaper Ogres
10k cheaper re-roll's.

Pump Wagon is a great idea and is the only real snotling only weapon.

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maysrill



Joined: Dec 29, 2008

Post   Posted: Jan 15, 2013 - 17:46 Reply with quote Back to top

LRB4 ogres: unreliable, beefy, unlikely to win, fun
CRP ogres: unreliable, mid-sized, nearly impossible to win, frustrating to play

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Mephistodragonbane



Joined: Nov 26, 2012

Post   Posted: Jan 15, 2013 - 17:50 Reply with quote Back to top

as long as you have fun playing you're winning. This is just a game after all.

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JimmyFantastic



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Post   Posted: Jan 15, 2013 - 17:54 Reply with quote Back to top

I wouldn't have minded Ogres getting nerfed so much if they were still fun but now they are just no fun with no chance to win.

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harvestmouse



Joined: May 13, 2007

Post   Posted: Jan 15, 2013 - 17:55 Reply with quote Back to top

Mephistodragonbane wrote:
Snotlings aren't known for having great armour or agility though. so a plus to any of those is unrealistic (although speaking of realisitic about a fantasy team seems silly but ah well..)


They also aren't known for being associated with Ogres, so there isn't a problem here. They shouldn't really be on the same roster, unless it's the college Orc one.

For some reason the BBRC became terrified by ST 5 players, and priced them out of the game in a lot of respects.
PaddyMick



Joined: Jan 03, 2012

Post   Posted: Jan 15, 2013 - 18:13 Reply with quote Back to top

maysrill wrote:
LRB4 ogres: unreliable, beefy, unlikely to win, fun
CRP ogres: unreliable, mid-sized, nearly impossible to win, frustrating to play


My record is 3/4/14, wouldn't call it nearly impossible Mr. Green

**thinly veiled and quite rubbish brag post**
Chainsaw



Joined: Aug 31, 2005

Post   Posted: Jan 15, 2013 - 18:25 Reply with quote Back to top

Outside of low TV, you won't win [m]any. Once tackle+mb[+po] is on every opponent, the snots will be picked off and you'll end up with 6 ogres for the majority of play.

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PainState



Joined: Apr 04, 2007

Post   Posted: Jan 15, 2013 - 18:28 Reply with quote Back to top

Well instead of trying to make them better..why not make a new CRP team that is worst, so they wont be in the cellar.

The Troll team. Same build as the current ogre team but replace the Ogres with trolls instead.

There we go...Ogres are now not the worst team.

I would say if you could hire snotlings or goblins on the team that would improve them. Snotlings are better for TTM because they dont reduce the range by 1, so you have 1 or 2 to toss around and the rest of the guys are goblins.

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PainState



Joined: Apr 04, 2007

Post   Posted: Jan 15, 2013 - 18:33 Reply with quote Back to top

Or the other way to go is once again a new roster. They allready introduced the Chaos pact team, a mix raced team. So you bring back the 2ED ogre team which was 8 ogres mixed with chaos humans. There you go, the Ogre CRP team. 0-8 Ogres and 0-4 Marauders and 0-4 snotlings and 0-16 Goblins. (goblins are 0-16 because they are the J-men on the squad)

That is the roster, rename the current Ogre team, snotling and all is well.

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Beerox



Joined: Feb 14, 2008

Post   Posted: Jan 15, 2013 - 18:34 Reply with quote Back to top

Make snotlings 10k!

In any case, something has to be cheaper. It took me 14 games to get 6 Ogres and 3 re-rolls on the roster. That's a lot of work to get all the 'positionals' for a team, and to basically get going with a 'real' team. Had to run -MA/-AV/Loner snotlings for a while just to get there. Everything is just so expensive for them, so that's what I'd change - make something cheaper.
Overhamsteren



Joined: May 27, 2006

Post   Posted: Jan 15, 2013 - 18:39 Reply with quote Back to top

PainState wrote:
Snotlings are better for TTM because they dont reduce the range by 1


What?

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