Diced
Joined: Dec 12, 2008
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Mar 07, 2013 - 01:38 |
 
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| Beerox wrote: | No way dude. Leave fouling weak, and create a General "lay down" skill to avoid PO.
Lay Down (G) (10k):
The player may lay down following any action. |
I'm sorry but as a real life player of actual sport (rugby, football) I find this suggestion bizzare. I'm assuming it's a tongue in cheek big vote in favour of perking DP again.
So you're in like this battle...and your opponent lies down on the ground after a lazy swing of his fist. Do you:
A. Stomp on his face.
B. Stomp on his privates.
C. Stomp on his legs.
D. Stomp on everything and get your team mates to help.
E. Lie down next to him. Suggest a passionate embrace.
(PS. This is almost how I see PO. I get that in BB it's a nice way to fight. But it just has to at least potentially hurt you, and there needs also be a geniune fear of getting stomped in reprisal. The odds against a guy on the ground really should be high.) |
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Diced
Joined: Dec 12, 2008
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Mar 07, 2013 - 01:49 |
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| harvestmouse wrote: | | The biggest loss (doing these subjects again and again makes us sound like a broken record) is the loss of the eye. The eye was one of the most genius mechanics added to BB, now BB is like the Louvre without the Mona Lisa. |
Might sound wierd given the context but yep I miss IGMEOY. The ridiculous acronym that I have to think about. The mechanics of it.
It was a genius bit of ruleage for the foul style of powergaming (remember Malthor's Blood Falcons anyone ?) that reigned supreme before this minmax marauder cpomb powergame took over.
Personally I'd like it back, but think PO needs to flip it. |
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JimmyFantastic
Joined: Feb 06, 2007
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Mar 07, 2013 - 01:51 |
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The effect of IGMEOY is overstated. 5/12 to get sent off isn't even bad. |
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Diced
Joined: Dec 12, 2008
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Mar 07, 2013 - 01:59 |
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Well it sure didn't stop them Blood Falcons, and quite a few like 'em.
I still liked it though. Something fluffy about it. |
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Qaz
Joined: Apr 28, 2004
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Mar 07, 2013 - 02:05 |
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| maysrill wrote: | | PO is 90% of the problem. Imagine a world without it... |
That would be great especially sine we are going to bring back aging too |
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baelnic
Joined: May 27, 2011
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Mar 07, 2013 - 02:06 |
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| Diced wrote: | | Beerox wrote: | No way dude. Leave fouling weak, and create a General "lay down" skill to avoid PO.
Lay Down (G) (10k):
The player may lay down following any action. |
I'm sorry but as a real life player of actual sport (rugby, football) I find this suggestion bizzare. I'm assuming it's a tongue in cheek big vote in favour of perking DP again.
So you're in like this battle...and your opponent lies down on the ground after a lazy swing of his fist. Do you:
A. Stomp on his face.
B. Stomp on his privates.
C. Stomp on his legs.
D. Stomp on everything and get your team mates to help.
E. Lie down next to him. Suggest a passionate embrace.
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E! I choose e! |
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Smeat
Joined: Nov 19, 2006
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Mar 07, 2013 - 02:15 |
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F - see below.
| harvestmouse wrote: | Pre LRB 5 fouling was too strong, post lrb 4 fouling is too weak, somewhere in the middle would be optimum.
The big problem though is with teams that rely on fouling, what should happen to them? |
Tweaked so they don't have to "rely" on fouling? (... just as if "tactics" could be used for any team...)
| harvestmouse wrote: | | The biggest loss ... is the loss of the eye. The eye was one of the most genius mechanics added to BB |
This is always the first thing I think of when this topic comes up, or when I see someone "relying" on fouling.
A stronger DP is fine but bring back the ref w/ eyes. One shot from either side, or trade shots back and forth if both sides are agreeable, but one team spamming DP is minimizing tactics and maximizing dice rolling. And any dweeb can roll dice.
If that's what you want, go play craps or monopoly. Seriously. |
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Zuul
Joined: Nov 15, 2003
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Mar 07, 2013 - 02:15 |
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Aging is coming back? Since when?
Don't say such horrible things Qas *whines some more about aging* |
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Diced
Joined: Dec 12, 2008
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Mar 07, 2013 - 02:19 |
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| maysrill wrote: | | PO is 90% of the problem. Imagine a world without it... |
Nah I really like PO because again for me it's fluffy. Blood Bowl. Probably should get bloody. It's a battle, so going a bit further to bring the hurt just works in this game.
Trouble is...if you hit a guy on the ground with DP it's a foul and there's generally a better chance you'll be out for the rest of the game than he will.
But if you hit a guy on the ground with PO then there is actually no risk at all from the action itself, and you'll very possibly pick up another opponent sent off attempting reprisal.
So..if PO is hitting a guy on the ground and fouling is hitting a guy on the ground...errm.
Well it is a very silly game.
I'd like an AV check for PO and IGMEOY back and a PO flips IGMEOY to the PO side inviting that reduced risk reprisal.
People will still PO despite these costs. Because it's fun. |
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pythrr
Joined: Mar 07, 2006
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Mar 07, 2013 - 02:24 |
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| Diced wrote: | | maysrill wrote: | | PO is 90% of the problem. Imagine a world without it... |
Nah I really like PO because again for me it's fluffy.. |
This is not what you said to me in game sir, when I POed you into dust. |
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Diced
Joined: Dec 12, 2008
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Mar 07, 2013 - 02:35 |
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| pythrr wrote: | | This is not what you said to me in game sir, when I POed you into dust. |
Actually pythrr I said that the all marauder cpomb build was powergame cheese. Especially with that legend cpomber working at the lowest TV possible build which Massakah exemplify.
You're out to whore rookie sides with that. And are clearly not planning on letting your legend cpomber meet others like him, in case he breaks a nail or something.
So the point I've made about Massakah ain't so subtle that you needed to try and miss it.
Anyway, I don't blame PO it was part of the fun until some dudes decided doing stuff like that with it was just brilliant.
(ps. I'm glad to see you fixed your caps lock key and use sentences now.) |
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mrt1212
Joined: Feb 26, 2013
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Apr 02, 2013 - 22:44 |
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I'd actually like to see PO be a d6 roll where 1 is crit failure and leads to auto injury roll. |
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JimmyFantastic
Joined: Feb 06, 2007
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Apr 02, 2013 - 22:53 |
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And 6 is crit success and leads to auto death of whoever you are piling on.
That would be class. |
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blader4411
Joined: Oct 18, 2009
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Apr 02, 2013 - 23:03 |
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Now now, all these are minor issues. Allow me to point you all to the elephant in the room; BLODGE.
For too long, overpowered low TV teams have abused this 1/6 chance of going down, and it needs to stop. Thus, I have the following proposal for an addition to Piling On:
On a Blitz; Piling On may negate Block 
Combine that with Tackle/MB, and we finally eliminate the elf/amazon problem! |
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harvestmouse
Joined: May 13, 2007
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Apr 02, 2013 - 23:07 |
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Well you eliminate the Zon roster bar low TV (where you liked to play them). I'm sure fixing them at high TV so they're unplayable is just what BB needs............those pesky broken high TV Zons, damn them...
LRB 5 + needed to do something about fouling, either fix fouling or dp, but not both. |
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