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Ansbach



Joined: Jul 12, 2004

Post   Posted: Jul 13, 2004 - 01:01 Reply with quote Back to top

I've seen a couple of posts here that say Wild Animal is the worst Big Guy trait to have, but I didn't see any explanation as to why? Are these comments pre-Living Rulebook recent changes to WA?

I am back in Blood Bowl after a long while, so I am an 'old' newbie...

Also, can you still buy/remove the negative Big Guy traits?

Thinking of starting a Skaven team and wondering about the 'new' Rat Ogres and whether I should start with one, so any comments along those lines would be appreciated as well...
Glomp



Joined: Jan 04, 2004

Post   Posted: Jul 13, 2004 - 01:06 Reply with quote Back to top

Nah you cant remove negative traits anymore sadly.

Wa sucks basically because most of the time you have to use a blitz to get the bloody things to actually do anything!
Also on a (1) its then a wasted blitz.

Don't fancy wasting it then its a 4+ to do anything at all Crying or Very sad

No more scoring with rat ogres matey Laughing

Don't complain too much though until recently they had to roll a 4+ to roll over after a stinking stun Shocked

Don't bother take more gutter runners instead Wink
Glomp



Joined: Jan 04, 2004

Post   Posted: Jul 13, 2004 - 01:08 Reply with quote Back to top

Also something I neglected is you still pay for the Ag3 on your rat ogres.

So worse negative skill but no cost reduction? Confused

They cheated us!

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Cederlund



Joined: Aug 25, 2003

Post   Posted: Jul 13, 2004 - 01:09 Reply with quote Back to top

i think WA is by far superior to Bonehead, at least you keep your tacklezones Razz
Glomp



Joined: Jan 04, 2004

Post   Posted: Jul 13, 2004 - 01:24 Reply with quote Back to top

Cederlund wrote:
i think WA is by far superior to Bonehead, at least you keep your tacklezones Razz


You do?

Damn I need to read the rule book for once. Shocked
Kenty



Joined: Dec 24, 2003

Post   Posted: Jul 13, 2004 - 01:27 Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah, you keep your tackle zones... which proves once and for all that being angry is better than being stupid.
VTDoogie



Joined: Feb 04, 2004

Post   Posted: Jul 13, 2004 - 01:50 Reply with quote Back to top

Also...WA can block on 2+, so they can block or blitz like a BH. Plus they have Frenzy for 2 blocks...and retain TZs as stated above... Makes them a great Big Guy...the AG 3 as a BC still works, you just eat a blitz to advance the ball...
Renno



Joined: Jun 17, 2004

Post   Posted: Jul 13, 2004 - 02:14 Reply with quote Back to top

I love my Rat Ogre. <shrug>
JanMattys



Joined: Feb 29, 2004

Post   Posted: Jul 13, 2004 - 02:34 Reply with quote Back to top

Rat Ogres are good. Put them next to some linos then wait. If they dodge (Prehesile tail) they are likely to fail and deplete rerolls. If they stay there, HIT THEM HARD.

I love my Rat Ogre too... Smile

And Minos have horns, wich makes them blitz any Troll or Ogre at 2d without assists.

I love my Mino.

Very Happy

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G_u_s



Joined: Jun 16, 2004

Post   Posted: Jul 13, 2004 - 02:48 Reply with quote Back to top

to me, WAs are the best BG around. at least, they're the best negatrait.

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Renno



Joined: Jun 17, 2004

Post   Posted: Jul 13, 2004 - 03:06 Reply with quote Back to top

Lets not forget physical traits.

With Razor Sharp Claws <or> Claws with Multi-block the Rat Ogre and Minotaur have the potential of being the deadliest players on the field. The Minotaur being a little better with Horns.
petsku



Joined: Oct 11, 2003

Post   Posted: Jul 13, 2004 - 14:12 Reply with quote Back to top

WA with tentacles is excellent.
Zy-Nox



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Jul 13, 2004 - 15:03 Reply with quote Back to top

wild animal us a great negatrait once they get a few skills they are laughing Wink

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Jinxed



Joined: Jul 04, 2004

Post   Posted: Jul 13, 2004 - 15:56 Reply with quote Back to top

Wild Animal is great because even if you fail you do not lose yur tacklezone.

Wild Animal sucks becuase you have a mere 50% (often less Very Happy ) chance that the Big Guy does something useful if you do not blitz or block.

And 1 out of 6 blitzes is wasted...

IMO it evens out. As it should.
DropDeadFred



Joined: Mar 05, 2004

Post   Posted: Jul 13, 2004 - 16:05 Reply with quote Back to top

rat orges are good and min's but aswell as they keep there tcklezones etc you also loose -1av witch might not seem like much but on a foul or claw guy they are gonna get alot more easyier

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