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mrt1212



Joined: Feb 26, 2013

Post   Posted: Mar 17, 2020 - 20:51 Reply with quote Back to top

JackassRampant wrote:
17,893 games is about 1.3 Brasky Units.

It'd be fun to develop a list of coaching styles into which you could fit all or almost all coaches, and a legendary coach for the type. Like, I'd probably fall into the PurpleChest grouping.


I think it's more robust when the group places you into a phenotype rather than trying to fit yourself into one.

There is always a fundamental gap between how we see ourselves and how others see us.

This is where having some sort of criteria to differentiate would be useful but so much of how this even got started was intuitive feels from observation.

But to your point, I would definitely put PC at the head of a phenotype.
ArrestedDevelopment



Joined: Sep 14, 2015

Post   Posted: Mar 17, 2020 - 20:52 Reply with quote Back to top

JackassRampant wrote:
Like, I'd probably fall into the PurpleChest grouping.


Er no.

The scale Mrt refers to isn't just on skill picks or "style", it's about motifs. I should know since I came up with it.

You genuinely have very little in common with PC.

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mrt1212



Joined: Feb 26, 2013

Post   Posted: Mar 17, 2020 - 20:55 Reply with quote Back to top

THERE HE IS! OUR BLOOD BOWL COACH BOTANIST/TAXONOMIST!
MenonaLoco



Joined: Jan 05, 2016

Post   Posted: Mar 18, 2020 - 08:23 Reply with quote Back to top

Wiki is a botanist, whaaaat?
JackassRampant



Joined: Feb 26, 2011

Post   Posted: Mar 19, 2020 - 14:20 Reply with quote Back to top

ArrestedDevelopment wrote:
The scale Mrt refers to isn't just on skill picks or "style", it's about motifs. I should know since I came up with it.

You genuinely have very little in common with PC.


Oh, then, no. I'm not in the PC category in that sense. We just use space in similar ways.

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thoralf



Joined: Mar 06, 2008

Post   Posted: Mar 19, 2020 - 15:04 Reply with quote Back to top

So who's the sneaky git among the four?

Looks at T intently.

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fidius



Joined: Jun 17, 2011

Post   Posted: Mar 19, 2020 - 16:54 Reply with quote Back to top

Who's the head of the phenotype where the game is only fun for the coach if there is a positive social experience, and s/he tends to win as long as s/he doesn't commit the one bonehead move that ruins everything? I'm thinking Azure.
mrt1212



Joined: Feb 26, 2013

Post   Posted: Mar 19, 2020 - 16:58 Reply with quote Back to top

thoralf wrote:
So who's the sneaky git among the four?

Looks at T intently.


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garyt1



Joined: Mar 12, 2011

Post   Posted: Mar 20, 2020 - 03:37 Reply with quote Back to top

I would be interested if there is any others in the type (or with the trait) that obsessively must write a report after every match.

The types will be a sliding scale but you will definitely find a few extremes. The fast movers, the long thinkers, the block dice rerollers, the passers (usually rookies), the abusers and complainers, the jollies etc.

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MenonaLoco



Joined: Jan 05, 2016

Post   Posted: Mar 23, 2020 - 07:29 Reply with quote Back to top

Gary, you just listed some characteristics. Not types. Dif. types can write reports, do quick or slow turns, abuse, complain, etc. Question is the motive behind it- did i understand correctly? So, what types are there? Is this continuing?
bghandras



Joined: Feb 06, 2011

Post   Posted: Mar 23, 2020 - 09:01 Reply with quote Back to top

Some other games classify the coaches based on the following 2 criteria:
1. What is their motivation to play the game? (What aspect of the game do they enjoy most?)
2. How do they evaluate tools (players, races, skills) in the game?

One example is Magic The Gathering. I bring this up because they polled a lot, and they put a lot of resource into their segmentation. Their answers are described here
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/timmy-johnny-and-spike-revisited-2006-03-20
and here
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/melvin-and-vorthos-2007-05-07-0

Short summary
1. Their motivational types are:
- Experience seeker
- Challenge seeker
- Creativity seeker
2. Their perception types are:
- Holistic view. Top to bottom. Get the big picture first, and judge the details how they fit.
- Micro view. Bottom to top. Analyse the details first, then judge the big picture based on its coherence, and architecture.

Disclaimer: A person is almost never a single type, but a mix. Also, a persons motivation can change game by game.

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gamelsetlmatch



Joined: Mar 05, 2013

Post   Posted: Mar 23, 2020 - 09:18 Reply with quote Back to top

Phenotype badges??? lol

Now you make we want to find out what type i am!

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Balle2000



Joined: Sep 25, 2008

Post   Posted: Mar 23, 2020 - 10:09 Reply with quote Back to top

Brasky Units
Balle2000



Joined: Sep 25, 2008

Post   Posted: Mar 23, 2020 - 10:10 Reply with quote Back to top

MenonaLoco wrote:
Wiki is a botanist

I like this nickname for AD.
Waaghafalga



Joined: Apr 13, 2019

Post   Posted: Mar 24, 2020 - 21:44 Reply with quote Back to top

Hmmm. I would like to think of myself as a fourth rate AD but I aspire to be a 4th rate grue, in reality I'm probably more of a fourth rate Baza but really dose it matter when you are 4th rate? More interesting than myself, I know what could be more interesting than me, is how many phenotypes are there? Can you name them in any other way than just listing coaches of that type? What would you call the one currently under discussion? The funotype? See what I did there?
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