Java
Joined: Jan 27, 2018
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Jul 14, 2020 - 12:38 |
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ClayInfinity wrote: | Coffee_Monster wrote: | Looking forward to the n,n -ag Blitzer hanging around as he can't be replaced. |
Haha true... and then we will laugh at his bloat! |
the flip side of this is fully kitted and pristine extra blitzers/throwers, AND constantly cycled and underdeveloped gutter runners because the apo is always saved for the unreplaceable grandfathers |
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garyt1
Joined: Mar 12, 2011
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Jul 22, 2020 - 04:08 |
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Yes, multiple loners was a masterstroke of punishing those who recklessly desire a versatile roster.
Some sturdy players could be a great boost for Humans.... but the best thing about Human teams is the 4 Blitzers with their speed and their strength access. Plus a decent starting thrower, and relatively cheap rerolls.. Reduce to one Human Blitzer, throw in animosity and loners, and make rerolls expensive and you have really done a number on them. .. But still it is an additional roster choice. I will give it a spin. It will encourage low rr builds so they will tend to need a good start. |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Jul 22, 2020 - 13:01 |
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Even assuming you bother playing OWA, the team is going to scale very bad.
Generally, badly starting teams tend to get better as their TV increases, this looks like a badly starting team getting worse over time, when the opponent teams are skilled as well and OWA loses its only advantage of having some useful core skills. |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Jul 22, 2020 - 13:19 |
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Sotax wrote: | As far as I see in the rosters, the gutter can choose M as a nomal roll for UW teams, however i think i saw in the spike that only on doubles... is it right? |
yup correct, it is doubles only. I checked the roster on the site and it is correct on the site as well. So no issues |
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James_
Joined: Aug 01, 2019
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Jul 22, 2020 - 14:21 |
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Does anyone know for sure what the Gutters skill access should be? as GW aren't it seems! |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Jul 22, 2020 - 15:05 |
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Coffee_Monster wrote: | Does anyone know for sure what the Gutters skill access should be? as GW aren't it seems! |
what source do you have for this? They are M on doubles in the Spike Magazine |
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flashman1234
Joined: May 29, 2016
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Jul 22, 2020 - 15:10 |
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I haven't seen it, but I Pedda mentions on twitter that the roster says M on doubles, but in the "how to play" article. "...every player has access to Mutation skills on a single Skill roll," and it's suggested to take two heads on a gutter runner |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Jul 22, 2020 - 16:07 |
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yeah that is true, there does seem to be a descrapancy between the playbook and the roster. But until there is an FAQ the roster is correct as printed. |
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sann0638
Joined: Aug 09, 2010
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Jul 22, 2020 - 16:41 |
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Yeah, you can usually ignore fluff, playbooks and the like I've found. |
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Oni
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jul 25, 2020 - 05:13 |
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How is Animosity handled for the gutter runner? |
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garyt1
Joined: Mar 12, 2011
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Jul 25, 2020 - 06:28 |
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Gutter Runner is skaven, so would suffer it if he were to pass/handoff to goblins or troll, and vice versa.
I never realised before if you fail animosity, you can change the target to be of the same race. Not that you will often have chance to. |
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Oni
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jul 25, 2020 - 16:55 |
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The roster differentiates the skaven players and the gutter runner. They are NOT the same. That is why I am asking. The intent seems to be the gutter runner is a skaven player but with GW and their rules I want to know how FUMMBL is handling it. |
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Oni
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jul 25, 2020 - 16:56 |
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garyT1 animosity effects when they player is doing the pass/HO not when they receive it. Goblins can give the ball to a skaven player with no roll for animosity. |
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mekutata
Joined: May 03, 2015
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Jul 25, 2020 - 17:28 |
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Oni wrote: | The roster differentiates the skaven players and the gutter runner. They are NOT the same. That is why I am asking. The intent seems to be the gutter runner is a skaven player but with GW and their rules I want to know how FUMMBL is handling it. |
There is one list where the other Skaven players are named "Skaven Blitzer", "Skaven Thrower", Skaven Lineman" while the Gutter is not, but that doesn't mean the "Gutterrunner" is not a Skaven.
Anyhow, GW published also another list where it's named "Skaven Gutterrunner".
In fumbbl they are Skaven, as IMO they should be. |
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Oni
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jul 25, 2020 - 18:50 |
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mekutata wrote: | Oni wrote: | The roster differentiates the skaven players and the gutter runner. They are NOT the same. That is why I am asking. The intent seems to be the gutter runner is a skaven player but with GW and their rules I want to know how FUMMBL is handling it. |
There is one list where the other Skaven players are named "Skaven Blitzer", "Skaven Thrower", Skaven Lineman" while the Gutter is not, but that doesn't mean the "Gutterrunner" is not a Skaven.
Anyhow, GW published also another list where it's named "Skaven Gutterrunner".
In fumbbl they are Skaven, as IMO they should be. |
I think they meant the gutter runner to be skaven I wanted to make sure FUMMBL plays it that way. Been around long enough to know GW can do some weird rules. |
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