Jasonian
Joined: Mar 04, 2005
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Apr 12, 2005 - 11:10 |
 
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Do you think that the kickoff table has to much influence on the outcome of the game? |
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Mr_QB
Joined: Jul 16, 2004
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Apr 12, 2005 - 11:13 |
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well it can make a make difference, but not if you take it into acount |
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Muyske
Joined: Feb 02, 2004
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Apr 12, 2005 - 11:18 |
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It only makes a difference if you get pouring rain as weather change while playing khemri  |
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Wotfudboy
Joined: Feb 17, 2004
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Apr 12, 2005 - 11:21 |
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Against some Wood Elf or Skaven teams (ie teams with players that regularly can get near the end zone with an MA increase or sprint) then quick snap can be very favourable to them.
Blitz isn't too bad now, now that the line of scrimmage don't take part in it...
Perfect Defence... just be aware that you may not "own" on the front line as you had previously set up, and your back field may be exposed if you've set up too top heavy.
Riot... not so bad now that both teams get effected, and not just one...
Rock throwing... only effects one player... but if it hits a low AV player, or causes SI/RIP to any player then there goes your apoth, if you have one... but like I said, it only effects one player out of 11 on your team.
Overall, the Kick Off table effects are a lot less game changing than they were before... plus they give a nice sense of chaos to any game... and that is what Blood Bowl is about...
And as the poster above mentioned, you can normally plan for some of the effects!... so my poll answer.... NO. |
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Optihut
Joined: Dec 16, 2004
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Apr 12, 2005 - 11:25 |
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A timely Blitz kickoff-result here and there works wonders. It's a pity they downgraded it so much, though - I had a streak of rolling Blitzes 
That said, of course the kickoff table makes a difference, but so do double 1s on the first action - so what? Bloodbowl is about in game tactics, team building strategy, and luck!
Since the luck factor can screw up your game, I agree with MR_QB that you need to take it into account - like doing the things that can't go wrong early on in a turn or putting at least one guy in front of the opponents line on a kickoff, just in case he rolls a 10.
EDIT: Oh, I misread the poll. I thought the question was "Do you think that the kickoff table has an influence on the outcome of the game?" to which I'd reply "yes."
I don't think the overall effect is a gamebreaker, so I'd vote no on the question as it is - just remember that one of those "yes" votes is actually a "no" |
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Jasonian
Joined: Mar 04, 2005
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Apr 12, 2005 - 14:25 |
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Personally I'm sick of perfect defense and blitz. The defense should get blitz but it should be like quick snap for them. Cept maybe instead of moving that 1 square they can throw a block. |
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Dooby
Joined: Nov 22, 2003
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Apr 12, 2005 - 14:28 |
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Bring back the old table where only one team got 'Get the Ref' grrrrrr |
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DoubleSkulls
Joined: Oct 05, 2003
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Apr 12, 2005 - 15:45 |
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Nagrud
Joined: Sep 29, 2003
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Apr 12, 2005 - 16:27 |
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Are you kidding? That's the worst part of the whole kick-off table by far, and it was even worse the way it used to be (and evidently will be again). It might be just a funny thing in a standalone game, but in here, against the wrong opponent, it's a team killer.
The rest of the kick-off table is ok. Get the ref should be deleted altogether. |
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Ash
Joined: Feb 03, 2004
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Apr 12, 2005 - 16:41 |
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| Dooby wrote: | | Bring back the old table where only one team got 'Get the Ref' grrrrrr |
I agree... the new Get the ref just sucks... |
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Shivan
Joined: Sep 09, 2004
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Jun 19, 2005 - 18:29 |
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I thinki that it has way too much influence. Rock and Riot can totally turn a game around.
Just try to watch the replay of this match http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=match&id=798454
the kickoff rolls are just worse than bad for me that game, and I had no chance of winning what so ever. |
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Malthor
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jun 19, 2005 - 18:43 |
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I have had a game where I got 4 blitzes in a row and finished 5-0 in the first half. The table can certainly ruin the enjoyment for some players when they are on the receiving end.
Like Blitz when opponent kicks. When you kick, they get Quick Snap. That can reduce the fun somewhat. |
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AlcingRagaholic
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jun 19, 2005 - 18:43 |
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Umm... there isn't as much of a Riot as a PI. And trust me, the current one is a LOT softer than it used to be. You didn't want to be on the receiving end of the old PI.
Besides, the Kick-Off Table is certainly meant to be a part of the game as it is in actual sports as well. A lucky blitz and you can recover the ball, or a last second audible to switch the defense.
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Shivan
Joined: Sep 09, 2004
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Jun 19, 2005 - 18:47 |
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it can just be frustrating sometimes. You enter a game, and no matter what you do you are bound to lose becuase you get a hopeless start. |
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Woodpecker
Joined: Apr 08, 2005
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Jun 19, 2005 - 19:04 |
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Absoulutly. Your opponent gets Reposition Defense or blitz a couple times, and you've lost. You need to have the advantage on offense, and those take it away, or reverse it. |
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