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SpIkEdDeAmOn



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: May 23, 2005 - 21:17 Reply with quote Back to top

Hey everyone,
This is a site for everyone who is fed up of paying extreme prices on games workshop goods.

http://www.swhs.co.uk/

Games workshop pushed their prices higher this year, suposedly because of inflation. Well my wages didnt get put up for inflation so i looked for another way! Very Happy

Note: i have not yet had a chance to use this website however would like to hear feedback from anyone who has!
paulhicks



Joined: Jul 19, 2004

Post   Posted: May 23, 2005 - 21:18 Reply with quote Back to top

Hmmmm pissing off gw by showing where to get cheaper stuff....

.... do we realy want to go down that road on this site? Laughing

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XPhilosoph



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post 5 Posted: May 23, 2005 - 21:36 Reply with quote Back to top

I thought GW does not allow more then 10%?
SpIkEdDeAmOn



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: May 23, 2005 - 21:52 Reply with quote Back to top

I dont know what rules GW has. However the site claims to pay GW directly for the stuff so GW is losing no more money than It would anyway! So why shouldnt we reap the benefits!
peikko



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: May 23, 2005 - 22:01 Reply with quote Back to top

Theres also couple shops selling new GW stuff on ebay, about same with mentioned one with shipping.
Funso



Joined: Apr 05, 2004

Post   Posted: May 23, 2005 - 22:11 Reply with quote Back to top

Paul, we aren't a GW appreciation society here.

Let's face it, JJ is pretty upset Fumbbl exists at all, we aren't in the business of keeping him and GW happy Smile

Having said that, GW are making money from any items it creates, even if they are being bought from someone else. So it's all gravy.
Pahvi



Joined: Sep 26, 2003

Post   Posted: May 23, 2005 - 22:30 Reply with quote Back to top

OT.
Just out of curiosity.

Quote:

Let's face it, JJ is pretty upset Fumbbl exists at all...


Why ?

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djbigjake



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: May 24, 2005 - 00:13 Reply with quote Back to top

Because Fumbbl has proven that people are willing to play Bloodbowl online, but it'd now be impossible for GW to develope a Bloodbowl online game that either costs money up front or subscription fees.
koadah



Joined: Mar 30, 2005

Post   Posted: May 24, 2005 - 01:47 Reply with quote Back to top

How many lawyers would it take to get FUMBBL shut down? They could do it if they wanted to.

I don't think that anyone is getting rich off this site. It would not be worth their while trying to replace it with their own. I bet they have sold a fair few boxed sets thanks to online players

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Woodpecker



Joined: Apr 08, 2005

Post   Posted: May 24, 2005 - 02:03 Reply with quote Back to top

I'm fairly sure it's impossible for them to shut it down. Firstly, the requirement that everyone own the boardgame to play takes care of a lot of the problems (all?). Secondly, Fumbbl is based in Sweden, which has no copyright laws.
Ironik



Joined: Jun 28, 2004

Post   Posted: May 24, 2005 - 02:12 Reply with quote Back to top

I suppose this shop works on the principle it is online, hence they do not have to pay all the various organisation figures and they buy stuff at normal bulk prices. Which should be much much less then what we pay in GW shops.
Always thought sweden had a very socialist core, grand thing! But is this true for everything or just for internet stuff woodpecker7? E.g medicines are covred by copyright or not?
Woodpecker



Joined: Apr 08, 2005

Post   Posted: May 24, 2005 - 02:38 Reply with quote Back to top

Ironik wrote:

Always thought sweden had a very socialist core, grand thing! But is this true for everything or just for internet stuff woodpecker7? E.g medicines are covred by copyright or not?

I'm not actually sure, to tell you the truth. I thought they had no copyright, but now that I think about it, it might be no Piracy laws. Does an actual swede want to tell us?
Adar



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: May 24, 2005 - 02:42 Reply with quote Back to top

Woodpecker7 wrote:
I'm fairly sure it's impossible for them to shut it down. Firstly, the requirement that everyone own the boardgame to play takes care of a lot of the problems (all?). Secondly, Fumbbl is based in Sweden, which has no copyright laws.


Sweden got no copyright laws? That is actually hugely incorrect. We generally got the same copyright laws as everyone else. You probably got confused by the fact that it wasn't illegal to download or have copies of downloaded things here in Sweden. The law is kinda changed now but no one cares.

The client is legal becuase it's only a tool that can be used to play a game (which you still need to get the rules for). Fumbbl itself can use copyrighted trademarks like "bloodbowl" becuase there isn't any commercial intrest in fumbbl (ie Christer doesn't profit from it).

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Woodpecker



Joined: Apr 08, 2005

Post   Posted: May 24, 2005 - 03:42 Reply with quote Back to top

See my above post. It was indeed the piracy laws that confused me. I don't know how I managed to come up with no copyright from that... Shocked
koadah



Joined: Mar 30, 2005

Post   Posted: May 24, 2005 - 14:48 Reply with quote Back to top

Woodpecker7 wrote:
I'm fairly sure it's impossible for them to shut it down. Firstly, the requirement that everyone own the boardgame to play takes care of a lot of the problems (all?). Secondly, Fumbbl is based in Sweden, which has no copyright laws.


I am sure that the lawyers would love a chance to argue this but I would be suprised if it were impossible to be shut down.

The requirement that everyone own the boardgame is not enforceable. Anyone can download the client and the rules for free.

I am assuming that bloodbowl is a trade mark of GW. Isn't it infringing GWs IP by recreating their game using their rules online?

The usual trick is to threaten to take the site to court. The site owner cannot afford to defend himself so kills the site. A big company can just drag out the case until the small guy runs out of money.

My argument is that it is in GWs interests to keep the site going as it promotes the game and so will lead to future sales.
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