Skrofler
Joined: Aug 16, 2005
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Sep 19, 2005 - 10:35 |
 
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I just agreed to play an equal TR game. When I start the client it turns out the other guy has altered his TR in order to get handicap. Thus I found myself in a game versus a different opponent than I had said OK to. This behaviour is to me, although not as severe, in principle equal to saying yes to a play with your elves and then fielding your 3 DP halflings instead.
Back home nobody would ever dare to pull off such a thing. Naturally I am bewildered and amused by the weird FUMBBL etiquette.
The questions:
1) According to FUMBBL rules, can you alter your TR after finding an opponent?
2) Is it proper etiquette to do so?
I couldn't find any info on this in the either User Guide or the Rules section.
By the way, the other coach was a friendly and sensible person so we simply agreed it would be best if we didn't play since we had totally different opinions on the issue. |
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Mr_QB
Joined: Jul 16, 2004
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Sep 19, 2005 - 10:40 |
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1) yes it is allowed
2) It is no way the proper etiquette, if your gonna change something at least have the curtesy to tell your opponent that you intend to hire stars, drop in tr by firing staff or players etc. before connecting to the game! |
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mUst
Joined: Jan 05, 2004
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Sep 19, 2005 - 10:47 |
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Welll.... in normal ranked games i wouldnt say its good sportsmanship, but in tounemënts i would do it anyday, depending on what the cost to my team would be.... just like the little surprice star 2 sec before the game, tounements are to be won at all cost  , but then again, i´ve been dissed on this matter before. |
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Skrofler
Joined: Aug 16, 2005
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Sep 19, 2005 - 10:50 |
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In open-style tournaments?
In tournaments with fixed matches, naturally there's no problem. |
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Tommi
Joined: May 17, 2004
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Sep 19, 2005 - 10:51 |
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Nuffle should have stayed in his cursed mother's womb, she should have had pity on our lost souls and killed nuffle while she still had the chance.
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We wouldnt have BB then, would we? In BB you can make changes before match, but as your can see them, he can react before the game (though not cancel it), so it's poor etiquette to make changes without notifying about them.. |
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torsoboy
Joined: Nov 23, 2004
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Sep 19, 2005 - 10:56 |
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1) Yes, you're allowed to do anything until you've connected.
2) I wouldn't like it, and I figure most people wouldn't. Best is to ask what the other is going to do with his cash before connecting.
Regarding 1), I'll have to pull off a game with a friend one day and fire all my players before connecting, just to see how he reacts.  |
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Chainsaw
Joined: Aug 31, 2005
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Sep 19, 2005 - 11:03 |
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I've had it done to me on several occasions and subsequently now I've done it myself a couple of times.
As far as I'm concerned, it's something I now factor into any match. I look at his roster & tr/ts, and accept that maybe if he fires a coach or 2 he'll get a handicap, or vice versa. Really, since ranked is competitive, I think this is fair game and you just have to be a bit sharper when taking matches.
Of course you can always just hope the coin gets palmed and that he's weakened his team unnecessarily! |
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JanMattys
Joined: Feb 29, 2004
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Sep 19, 2005 - 11:07 |
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| Chainsaw wrote: | | I've had it done to me on several occasions and subsequently now I've done it myself a couple of times. |
I don't second this way of thinking.
Back to the topic:
1) as said a dozen times before, it is legal.
2) it's bad sports to do so without a warning, just as hiring a Star without telling is. I never ever turned down a game because of a star, but those who sneak a star into their rosters without letting me do the same (I host most of the times) go directly to my dnp list. |
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Cloggy
Joined: Sep 23, 2004
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Sep 19, 2005 - 11:36 |
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At least Jan tells me when he will hire a Star AND a wizard before playing my poor cd's 
Hurray for Jan! |
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JanMattys
Joined: Feb 29, 2004
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Sep 19, 2005 - 11:50 |
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| Cloggy wrote: | At least Jan tells me when he will hire a Star AND a wizard before playing my poor cd's
Hurray for Jan! |
Hurray!
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Mr_QB
Joined: Jul 16, 2004
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Sep 19, 2005 - 12:22 |
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| Cloggy wrote: | At least Jan tells me when he will hire a Star AND a wizard before playing my poor cd's
Hurray for Jan! |
same here you allways know when Jan brings a star |
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Purpleplums
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Sep 19, 2005 - 12:43 |
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i think firing people, coaches etc is a bit off, but hiring guys is fair play, the cash in your stash goes towards tr so if your opp has hired 2 extra guys its still what your team should be facing for its TR. Hiring stars is a bit different, but thats fumbbl for ya |
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Schalburg
Joined: Feb 12, 2004
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Sep 19, 2005 - 13:18 |
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I don't really see the difference between hirering stars or to fire coaches before the game has begun. But they are both underhand tactics which I gladly put to use if I think I'm up against a skillful opponnent. |
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Chainsaw
Joined: Aug 31, 2005
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Sep 19, 2005 - 13:19 |
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I'm of completely the opposite opinion! Hiring a star or new players without warning is really bad sportsman ship. When you challenge you challenge with the players you have, and if you're going to alter that you should let them know.
That sounds slightly contradictory given I condoned firing coaches to get a handicap, but if somebody with a higher tr/ts is challenging you really they should at least accept it might happen. That's why there's a difference in tr, because one team is "better" than the other! |
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Jinxed
Joined: Jul 04, 2004
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Sep 19, 2005 - 13:21 |
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Do not do unto others what you would not like to have done to you... |
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