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Delta



Joined: Aug 02, 2003
Post   Posted: Oct 04, 2005 - 22:12 Reply with quote Back to top
What he said! ^^

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Podfrey



Joined: Jan 07, 2004
Post   Posted: Oct 04, 2005 - 22:33 Reply with quote Back to top
My suggestion would be to keep it simple.

A little note next to the players name on Gamefinder and their homepage (the two most regularly viewed pages) with "I've contributed in the last 12 months". Basically this appears if a coach's "last contributed date" was within the last 365 days. As said before, contributions might be a sound pack or pix, so an admin could reset someone's "last contributed date" on successful acceptance of a submission (i.e. not just money contribution).

I think the power of subliminal suggestion would help a lot. Also mention in the contribution page (which the note by the coaches name links to Wink ) that contributions can be monetary, time or resource.
Gran



Joined: Jul 07, 2005
Post   Posted: Oct 04, 2005 - 23:43 Reply with quote Back to top
/bows to <B>Coach_Lo</B>

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MrMojo



Joined: Apr 17, 2004
Post   Posted: Oct 05, 2005 - 07:21 Reply with quote Back to top
I really don't think we need to point out people who donate. That just sounds weird. It's impolite to talk about money.

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macike



Joined: Jun 25, 2005
Post   Posted: Oct 05, 2005 - 08:55 Reply with quote Back to top
Jinxed wrote:
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I'm affraid it is beyond of Jinxed's perception.

Yeah. Me too.

10 teams for free is still for free no? And if you want more you get to pay a VERY SMALL amount for it?

It seems that you're right. Its beyond of your peception.

Jinxed wrote:
Mind you; I can see that this could be seen as 'profit', but I also know it is quite easy to create a non-profit organisation with only 1 purpose; to keep fumbbl alive.

Would fumbbl become a profitable one? Wouldn't be this non-profit organization redundant? What is the purpose of multiplying entities/organizations? Why not to keep things simple?

Jinxed wrote:
You get this macike? Cool

I'm affraid this is beyond of my perception. Wink

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Jinxed



Joined: Jul 04, 2004
Post   Posted: Oct 05, 2005 - 11:32 Reply with quote Back to top
macike;

It is VERY simple in our country to create a non-profit organisation.

For (random) example; fumbbl becomes such a non-profit org. Any and all cash flowing into fumbbl must go to fumbbl in order to keep it alive or -if possible- improve things.

So no profit ever is made. Excess cash is invested in fumbbl.

Sounds fairly easy to me. Wink

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macike



Joined: Jun 25, 2005
Post   Posted: Oct 05, 2005 - 20:55 Reply with quote Back to top
Jinxed wrote:
For (random) example; fumbbl becomes such a non-profit org. Any and all cash flowing into fumbbl must go to fumbbl in order to keep it alive or -if possible- improve things.

fumbbl->fumbbl cash flow? You mistyped something I quess.

Let's assume there is some Fumbbl Supporters Association (FSA) - non-profit org. The open questions are:
a) are not FSA members allowed to use fumbbl?
b) is there any mantatory membership fee for FSA members?

a) NO, b) NO - does not guarantee more cash flowing than PayPal donations; it is limiting our freedom - not everyone likes it;

a) NO, b) YES - would fumbbl still be free - I don't think so; what would GW say to fumbbl and FSA?

a) YES, b) NO - what's the difference from PayPal donations?

a) YES, b) YES - what's the difference from PayPal donations? what added value would you offer to FSA members?

Jinxed wrote:
So no profit ever is made. Excess cash is invested in fumbbl.

"Excess" you say. Wouldn't all the money be transfered to fumbbl? Who will consume the rest? Why anyone else than Christer?

Jinxed wrote:

Sounds fairly easy to me. Wink

AFAIK in my country even non-profit org. nedds a statute. As I understand FSA statute will state that all the money will be transferred to fumbbl (otherwise personally I would prefer to donate directly). This way it can be easy to track the cashflow and state that fumbbl is not free of charge (the - a) NO, b) YES - case above).
It's not clear to me what would be the advantages of solution you proposed.

IMNSHO the purpose of all the donations threads I've read on this forum is to find out how to encourage coaches to donate more rather than forcing them to pay a fee.
It seems that too many of us are parasites that do not follow the rule: "the game worth playing is the game worth buying".

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Longshanks



Joined: Feb 02, 2005
Post   Posted: Oct 06, 2005 - 05:44 Reply with quote Back to top
I think a useful addition that might encourage me to donate is a way to donate without my wife knowing about it ! Rolling Eyes

"You mean it costs me money for you to waste your time playing that stupid game !!!" is not something I need to hear.
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Plain brown wrapper anyone ?
MrMojo



Joined: Apr 17, 2004
Post   Posted: Oct 06, 2005 - 09:06 Reply with quote Back to top
Longshanks, hear hear. Wives tend to have a negaive wiev on this game for some odd reason.

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Webbe



Joined: Aug 13, 2003
Post   Posted: Oct 06, 2005 - 09:18 Reply with quote Back to top
Longshanks wrote:
I think a useful addition that might encourage me to donate is a way to donate without my wife knowing about it ! Rolling Eyes

"You mean it costs me money for you to waste your time playing that stupid game !!!" is not something I need to hear.
Smile

Plain brown wrapper anyone ?


I'm sure she is using your shared money on something else that you have no interest in?

If she should say that that and mean it I think you should have split economies.
MrMojo



Joined: Apr 17, 2004
Post   Posted: Oct 06, 2005 - 09:27 Reply with quote Back to top
Webbe wrote:
Longshanks wrote:
I think a useful addition that might encourage me to donate is a way to donate without my wife knowing about it ! Rolling Eyes

"You mean it costs me money for you to waste your time playing that stupid game !!!" is not something I need to hear.
Smile

Plain brown wrapper anyone ?


I'm sure she is using your shared money on something else that you have no interest in?

If she should say that that and mean it I think you should have split economies.


But alas, it might be that we're not so advanced as you swedes are. Smile

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karix



Joined: Aug 18, 2003
Post   Posted: Oct 06, 2005 - 09:47 Reply with quote Back to top
amstar34: awesome idea - having an update on what we're aiming for and how close we are to getting it. they do this alot when fundraising across a large audience like this one. No one needs to be recognised individual as Mr Mojo points out.. but we can all work together to get what we're aiming for - faster, more reliable fumbbl :>

good call Coach Lo the. whole post. top notch.

-karix
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