lamby16
Joined: Sep 07, 2005
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macike
Joined: Jun 25, 2005
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Dec 08, 2005 - 15:44 |
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Guard |
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HollowOne
Joined: Sep 23, 2004
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Assuming he lives that long:
Standard skill: Guard, Pro
Double: Stand Firm, Dodge, Dauntless
Stat Increase: yes |
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lamby16
Joined: Sep 07, 2005
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Dec 08, 2005 - 15:46 |
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Why Guard? I still dont understand why that's so highly rated. I usually use the guy as a star-chaser going out alone to take out those pesky one-turners, or Which elves - people with guard are generally support players arent they? |
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HollowOne
Joined: Sep 23, 2004
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Dec 08, 2005 - 15:49 |
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You can't have enough Guard. A team with enough Guards can present a strong wall of players that the opposing team will have a terrible time getting two dice blocks against -- unless they too have enough Guards. In my opinion, Guard is a bashier skill than Mighty Blow. Sometimes, any player needs to be a support player. |
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JanMattys
Joined: Feb 29, 2004
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Dec 08, 2005 - 15:52 |
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Let's assume we play:
You get an 11 human linos team all with MB.
I get an 11 human linos team all with guard.
Assuming we have the same luck, I win, I score more, and I heavily outbash you as well.
That's why all-guard teams are evil. |
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SolomonKane
Joined: Jul 21, 2005
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Dec 08, 2005 - 15:55 |
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Though you could just as easily build a Beastman to go hunting key opposing players, and with a better ST score, too (Horns). The 8 AV might keep him alive longer, as well.
Myself, the only Norse I use on my CP team is a thrower, which allows me to go with two Orc liners and a CW or BG for the LOS. hopefully, the low AV is countered by the fact most throwers don't play anywhere near the opposing team if they can help it.... |
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ozjesting
Joined: Jan 27, 2004
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Dec 08, 2005 - 15:59 |
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Because Guard is the single most broken skill in the game! Sure you can whack on about fouls and DP and claws/rsc but every skill has a counter...Guard is all high and mighty...even a Guard can't cancel out a Guard...how broken is that?!?
Take Guard. |
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macike
Joined: Jun 25, 2005
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Dec 08, 2005 - 15:59 |
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| JanMattys wrote: | Let's assume we play:
You get an 11 human linos team all with MB.
I get an 11 human linos team all with guard.
Assuming we have the same luck, I win, I score more, and I heavily outbash you as well.
That's why all-guard teams are evil. |
I second that. |
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lamby16
Joined: Sep 07, 2005
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Dec 08, 2005 - 16:04 |
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| SolomonKane wrote: | Though you could just as easily build a Beastman to go hunting key opposing players, and with a better ST score, too (Horns). The 8 AV might keep him alive longer, as well.
Myself, the only Norse I use on my CP team is a thrower, which allows me to go with two Orc liners and a CW or BG for the LOS. hopefully, the low AV is countered by the fact most throwers don't play anywhere near the opposing team if they can help it.... |
I'm on the way for that, i do have a MB beastman - hoping he gets claw/RSC next skill. I'm going for an incredibly flexible team - 3 really bashy players (my blitzer + Beastman+ogre) a good thrower (pass,accurate,surehands,strong arm orc) a good runner (sure feet, sprint, doge, block gutter runner) a goblin for the TTM possibilities and some good skills on the linos. I was just wondering how to develop my blitzer better - guard seems like the option then |
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xlars
Joined: May 12, 2004
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Dec 08, 2005 - 16:27 |
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Guard is good, no doubt. But what I like on frenzy players is strip ball. Imagine; push, ball loose, push no tackle zones on it. This is of cause best if there is not too many sure hands players.
BTW I wouldn't take piling on on a av 7 player, that's just asking for the boot.
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HollowOne
Joined: Sep 23, 2004
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Dec 08, 2005 - 17:44 |
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| ozjesting wrote: | | even a Guard can't cancel out a Guard...how broken is that?!? |
Technically, a Guard does cancel out a Guard... when two bashy teams fight, it's a lot about who has enough Guards left in the right place. |
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Macavity
Joined: Nov 23, 2004
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Dec 08, 2005 - 17:45 |
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Yeah, I thought about that too, HollowOne.... and when the two of us agree, WATCH OUT!  |
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MrMojo
Joined: Apr 17, 2004
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Dec 08, 2005 - 18:13 |
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Guard is wasted, if you use it to guard lone players alone. You have to think about the game mechanics, which often are quite illogical. But then again, life is. |
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amstar34
Joined: Jul 25, 2004
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Dec 08, 2005 - 18:29 |
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Guard does NOT cancel out a guard. Guard can only lend an assist when in the proper position to do so.
You can cancel out a normal assist by placing a tackle zone on it by a non-blocking player. However, you can NOT cancel out a "guard assist" by placing a "guard tackle zone" on it by a non-blocking player. I think that this is what is considered broken.
I would like guard to be able to cancel another guard. Two teams of all guard players could then be played as if guard did not exist. |
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