| Poll |
| Have you heard enough about fouling? |
| Never! |
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54% |
[ 42 ] |
| Yes! Stop, please just stop! |
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45% |
[ 35 ] |
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| Total Votes : 77 |
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pac
Joined: Oct 03, 2005
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Dec 22, 2005 - 22:45 |
 
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http://fumbbl.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=6788
It was a thread that had it all: flame wars; Stunty teams; poor grammar; pie; and, of course, fouling. So very much fouling.
But not everyone has time to read through 14 pages of repetition for those nuggets of pure forum gold. Well, be calm, my fellow coaches: the Foulers' Digest is here for you! Condensed into a single (long  ) post: nothing but top quality thoughts on fouling to be found here, from some of fumbbl's finest coaching minds (and shadow46x2 as well! ). Enjoy:
<i>The post that started it all:</i>
| zatoc wrote: | | My Dark elve team are pondering wheather to take a dirty player to put people off from fouling me, at present they just seem to get fouled whenever my opp wants. Would this be a wise investment in general? |
<i>Early thoughts:</i>
| angelface wrote: | | You have more than 500 matches, and open a poll about buying dp or not? |
| JanMattys wrote: | | Everybody will tell you "yes", but I say no. |
| torsoboy wrote: | | I don't subscribe to the idea that having a DP discourages fouling. People will foul you regardless. |
| Synn wrote: | | I personally do not foul in ranked unless my opponent really needs a boot or two (or has the name AFK_Eagle) |
| shadow46x2 wrote: | | i use a DP quite religiously...the ref and i are on a first name basis at this point... |
| Buur wrote: | | i think there sould be rules against not fouling... |
| DonTomaso wrote: | | DP is a good or bad idea! Period! |
<i>Trouble looms:</i>
| ruoste wrote: | ahh, what do we have here, one of the thousand threads about fouls..
come on, someone should start flaming |
| angelface wrote: | | this fouling fetishism doesnt seem to die out ever. |
| Captain1821 wrote: | All of you that are saying something against DP, do you ever tried to play in tournaments?
Or you just...
...pick those opponents that play with the rules that you like?
...
p.s.
ruoste I just started the flamewar  |
| HollowOne wrote: | | I dunno. I'm not a Dirty Player fetishist |
| Captain1821 wrote: | | LOL! Now those that play by all the rules are called fetishist! |
| BigMac wrote: | | I just got a Call From Krister and he told me all teams without at least 2 Dirty Players will be banned from FUMBBL on JAnuary 1st, 2006. He wants to keep this a secret, so don't tell anyone! |
| BigMac wrote: | | deathgerbil wrote: | | Well, dirty player doesn't have to be used just to destroy your opponent's team ... |
This is a newbie thread. They just can' hear u man. |
| MrMojo wrote: | Fouling is good, fouling is nice,
if you get caught, double the vice! |
| Uber wrote: | | DP is for noobs. Nuff said. |
| Firesky wrote: | | the real question is not should i use a dirty player but how many! |
| Curro wrote: | | People, Let´s start to play and shut up about this topic! |
And if only we had listened to Curro at that fateful moment ...
But too many posters had been drawn like flies to honey:
| Parallax wrote: | | I'm voter number 100! |
<i>From amidst the flames, other shapes emerge:</i>
| Mordus wrote: | *sighs* Everything is overpowered in the right situation.
...
Edit: Holy poop sicles... four people posted while I was typing this. |
| JanMattys wrote: | | DP is broken because every stupid lino or goblin or whatever can take it after 6 spps, and the potential impact on a game is huge. Come on... let's try not to be naive... |
| Slick wrote: | | In order to live in peace, one must prepare for war! |
| JanMattys wrote: | | Come on! I want to see if we can reach 1k posts staying "on topic" about fouls! |
| Dreadclaw wrote: | | Wednesday is not thursday, reading is like a rainbow, I am rubber you are glue |
| pac wrote: | | Mordus wrote: | Is that a new stunty team? I can't keep track there is like a thousand of them  |
<i>Foul Spammers</i>
0-16 I Never Foul! 7 1 3 6 Dodge Jump Up Stunty A 30 K
0-4 I Retaliate! 6 2 3 7 Dodge Piling On Stunty A 40 K
0-2 Tactical Foulers 5 2 2 7 Dodge Dirty Player Stunty A 40 K
0-1 DP Fetishist 4 5 2 8 Big Guy Wild Animal Dirty Player S 110 K |
| Dreadclaw wrote: | [posterA]: Grow up. you're intelligent enough.. really 
[posterB]: Stop being so provocative
Dreadclaw: Don't meddle in a nice internet argument involving mutual flaming. |
| qk wrote: | | ... good stuff in this thread, I did learn a couple of things ... |
| shadow46x2 wrote: | | ...makes me all warm and fuzzy in my tummy when that last block pushes a ma10/sprint/sure feet gutter runner into an 8-man dirty player boot party.....that's when i like to do my victory dance, when i hear that special kersploosh sound |
<i>The flames die out:</i>
| sk8bcn wrote: | | I ve seen better flame wars so far. This one lacked of creativity somehow |
| Fama wrote: | | I'd say get a dp, if the original poster still wants advice... |
| shadow46x2 wrote: | | dread....does it make you feel good that people who used to be compliant happy ... are growing more and more vicious every day ... to become dreadclawlings? |
| Dreadclaw wrote: | Dreadlings: A race of sleek, gnome hating small goblinoidlike bloodbowlers ...
Dreadling: 5/2/3/6 Dirty player stunty Right Stuff (A) 40k (0-16)
Dreadling Mutant 4/4/1/8 Dirty player Wild Animal (G) 80k (0-3)
Dreadling Lunatic 2/2/3/6 Dirty player Pogo stick, chainsaw, bombs, Blunderbuss (A/P) 40k (0-1) (you try moving with all those weapons!)
Pugnant Dreadling 5/2/3/6 Dirty Player Foul appearance, Thick skull, Poisoned claws (poison dagger) (0-1) (A) 60k |
<i>Enthusiasm flags:</i>
| sk8bcn wrote: | | never will a thread reach that mark [1000 posts] just by spamming so definitely, we need to talk about something interesting to be read. |
| Dreadclaw wrote: | | My crumblers work on a rather simple principle: ... It's a simple exchange of players where I end up with more left... |
| pac wrote: | | ChrisB wrote: | | Don't mind fouling just think DP is a bit broken. in the end its part of the game like it or not.... |
Come on, this is a 12 page thread we're trying to keep alive here! We've had 'part of the game' once or twice already. |
| sk8bcn wrote: | | well every time you foul a star, just think about how much you hurt the players coach feelings. |
| Optihut wrote: | | 13 pages? You've got to be kidding... |
| Mordus wrote: | | Zombies are SOOO overpowered |
| shadow46x2 wrote: | excuse me....can we please stop discussing the uberness of zombies, and return to the "fouling is good" debate?.....this lack of beating a dead horse is getting to me  |
| Macavity wrote: | | *wktchh* /me happily flogs the horse until it rises up as a zombie! |
| pac wrote: | Let's think ...
Do you think fouling is part of the ...
No, wait: I'll try again ...
This is getting tricky even for me to ramble on about! |
| JanMattys wrote: | | So, I think that helping ppl getting rid of their beloved stars is a way to help them reach a new level of consciousness. |
<i>The Last Word:</i>
| Laviak wrote: | Know how to kick them where it hurts?
Love to put the boot in even when you should be passing the ball?
Or just love a good old fashioned foul-fest...
The Dirty Fouling Elvses want YOU!
...
PS: Yes ... I suck at fouling. |
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Complied from this thread we bring you ... <i>the categorisation of coaches by their fouling tendencies!</i>:
<b>1.</b> Won't take DP.
1a. Won't take DP, and will never foul at all either!
1b. Won't take DP, but still uses tactical fouling for one or more category 3 ends.
<b>2.</b> Takes single DP for retaliation.
2a. Will foul one-for-one in retaliation.
2b. Once opponent has fouled, gloves are off and will foul as much as possible!
2c. Will use DP to retaliate to all kinds of personal dislikes: crowdsurfing, oneturners, blitzing a star ...
<b>3.</b> Takes single DP for 'tactical fouling'.
3a. Fouls to protect ball-carrier.
3b. Fouls to eliminate opposition Stars.
3c. Fouls to reduce opposition numbers.
3d. Fouls to eliminate DPs.
3e. Fouls to get a concession win.
3f. Fouls to get a +1 to FF roll.
3g. Fouls to see some first class whining.
<b>4.</b> Takes as many DP as possible!
4a. Takes as many DP as possible, <b>and</b> ignores the ball in preference to fouling.
Additional markers for coaches in any category:
* - Will Turn 16 foul.
† - Will make retaliation fouls even if on Turn 16.
¥ - Will foul every turn with Get The Ref.
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Many thanks to all contributors, quoted and unquoted!
PS - Now we never need to have another thread about fouling ever again. |
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Agrak
Joined: Nov 14, 2005
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Dec 22, 2005 - 22:50 |
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My Orc team are pondering whether to take a Thrower to put people off from throwing against me, at present they just seem to get thrown over whenever my opp wants. Would this be a wise investment in general? |
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torsoboy
Joined: Nov 23, 2004
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Dec 22, 2005 - 22:54 |
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| Agrak wrote: | | My Orc team are pondering whether to take a Thrower to put people off from throwing against me, at present they just seem to get thrown over whenever my opp wants. Would this be a wise investment in general? |
The Pass skill is overpowered and should only be used by noobs and beardy gits. |
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MrMojo
Joined: Apr 17, 2004
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Dec 22, 2005 - 22:54 |
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Cool thread. |
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Meech
Joined: Sep 15, 2005
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Dec 22, 2005 - 22:55 |
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Thank you Pac for a WONDERFUL early Christmas present. |
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WiNG
Joined: Dec 05, 2004
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Dec 22, 2005 - 22:56 |
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hm.... my vamps are getting 2 wardancers, one to prevent people to use a wardancer against me and the other one for tactical scoring, even turn 16 socring if having score the ref |
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Meech
Joined: Sep 15, 2005
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Dec 22, 2005 - 22:56 |
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| Agrak wrote: | | My Orc team are pondering whether to take a Thrower to put people off from throwing against me, at present they just seem to get thrown over whenever my opp wants. Would this be a wise investment in general? |
HA! You won't get us with that again Agrak! Which Orc team?? |
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pac
Joined: Oct 03, 2005
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Dec 23, 2005 - 03:16 |
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Just noticed an example of the beauty of selective quoting: at the start I have JanMattys clearly stating his anti-fouling position; at the end it reads as though this has completely reversed and he has become an enthusiast for precision player-killing!
Hope you appreciate being misrepresented, Jan. |
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Tribune
Joined: Dec 19, 2005
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Dec 23, 2005 - 03:30 |
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Great thread.
Back in the olden days of actual Blood Bowl boards and figures, I presided over a league where we awarded a Most Violent Player award at the end of the major tournaments, meriting a 5 SPP bonus. This was specifically for the player with the most successful fouls.
When I was in brief correspondence with Jervis, he loved the idea and said he was tempted to bring it into his studio league. How much more of a pro-DP endorsement can you get than that?
PS. Yes, I know that was a long time ago, before half a million games were played on the web-ternet. |
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Feris
Joined: Aug 03, 2005
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Dec 23, 2005 - 03:47 |
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Guys...I foul...I LOVE to foul...but I do this mostly on the leagues I play in ral life!
Why I don't foul in fumbbl? because it's an eternal league...where the development of a team is more imprtant them the winning by itself!
I got to know that foulers are despised...and a dp in team is almost a "keep out" when you are looking for a recovery game or soon fumbbl!
If u ask me if I'll foul in a tourney...YES...and Yes again...but on fumbbl I try to keep the things low profile (with khemri exeption)!
But about Agrak reply I must say...let's create a team like those "pact" guys so we can prevent all the "Ubberness" of bb! We could even put a zombie, since it's so uber when it comes to fouling! =)
cya
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DreadClaw
Joined: Nov 17, 2003
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Dec 23, 2005 - 03:59 |
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If you're trolling I want in,
And stop quoting me without paying me my royalties!
(cool thread though)! |
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OverDose
Joined: Apr 07, 2005
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Dec 23, 2005 - 04:27 |
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I tend to not foul in kiddy matches, but I'm an enthustiastic tactical fouler in matches where it counts. I hate DPs on opponent, so naturally I want to wield one of those weapons too!
This is not a cool thread though |
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Curro
Joined: Jun 07, 2005
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Dec 23, 2005 - 08:17 |
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I´d go in the 3c category, and will foul everyturn If I Get the Ref (But I can´t write that simbol... )
Great post pac! I appear in it!! w00t! |
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sk8bcn
Joined: Apr 13, 2004
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Dec 23, 2005 - 15:13 |
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I admit this summary is good. But go to the original one if you want to state your feelings about fouls
1000 posts requiered there |
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Voorn
Joined: Nov 23, 2005
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Dec 23, 2005 - 15:15 |
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You get +1 to fan factor rol for fouling? I didnt realize that. 
I am a 1b player. |
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