KingofFighters
Joined: Oct 21, 2005
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Jan 16, 2006 - 08:46 |
 
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Hi,
Have had my CD team for a little bit, and was wondering how long I should wait to get a Big Guy... I know its only early days but I hear alot of talk about Big Guys just being a liability and not worth the TR.
I intend on getting my second Cow before I choose which BG to get but was considering just leaving them out altogether...
Also if I was to get one, what would people recommend?
I think my style of play would favour a Troll (as I go with the roadblock style of caging and blocking of others) but a Mino might compliment a cage busting style and be a bit more flamboyant...
Check my team out http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=228049
and let me know where you think i should take it.
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KingofFighters
Joined: Oct 21, 2005
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Jan 16, 2006 - 08:48 |
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sothys
Joined: Dec 21, 2003
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Jan 16, 2006 - 08:54 |
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bloody wankers the lot of them.
Big guys are not worth it, 1/3 of your fights they will make a difference, and act for your team like where it a 12player team. 1/3 of the games they will Dskull you to hell and in general fail to move, making your team a 10 player team. the last 1/3 of the games they spend in the injury box while the oppoment dances around cheering a dirty player with blood on his boot |
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GooseIAm
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jan 16, 2006 - 09:00 |
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| sothys wrote: | bloody wankers the lot of them.
Big guys are not worth it, 1/3 of your fights they will make a difference, and act for your team like where it a 12player team. 1/3 of the games they will Dskull you to hell and in general fail to move, making your team a 10 player team. the last 1/3 of the games they spend in the injury box while the oppoment dances around cheering a dirty player with blood on his boot |
I disagree. As soon as they get guard they become very valuable indeed. Just plug them in the line and then don't worry about them. I just use them to tie people up and very rarely select them let alone throw blocks. |
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Nalavara
Joined: Jul 19, 2005
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Jan 16, 2006 - 09:28 |
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I agree with GooseIAm and if i was you KingofFighters i woud go the mino.....and if by luck you get a double on a skill roll, take tentacles, then he will be a real nuisance. As for After Dinner Mint, block next for sure, unless you get another +st  |
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MiBasse
Joined: Dec 04, 2004
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Jan 16, 2006 - 09:30 |
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| Nalavara wrote: | | I agree with GooseIAm and if i was you KingofFighters i woud go the mino.....and if by luck you get a double on a skill roll, take tentacles, then he will be a real nuisance. |
If you do take a Mino and get a double - definitley use it on block. It's so worth it for any Big Guy.
And Mino does add some additional variety to the brilliant CD team in the form of Frenzy. Just don't blitz with him too often - he's great for crowdpushes, though. |
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Bloodoholic
Joined: Dec 26, 2005
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Jan 16, 2006 - 09:31 |
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Take a troll
big guys really makes a diffrence in cd,teams |
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KingofFighters
Joined: Oct 21, 2005
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Jan 16, 2006 - 09:42 |
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I think a TROLL would be better because using Mino's means I HAVE to blitz with him to make him useful most of the time.
I dont know...
And block would always be my first double choice (or pro always a good option). |
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Plorg
Joined: May 08, 2005
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Jan 16, 2006 - 09:50 |
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Pro might make sense for Big Guys who do a lot of TTM, but if not then Block. |
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soren72
Joined: Nov 29, 2004
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Jan 16, 2006 - 10:02 |
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I prefer a mino for two reasons. Most important; they don't loose tackle zone when they fail their roll. Second they can get mutations. This is not that important, but when you roll that second double...  First one always goes to block.
BTW check out this nice one: Black Diamond |
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angelface
Joined: Mar 23, 2004
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Jan 16, 2006 - 10:07 |
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Pro is untrustworthy, so if any of your actions is based on the idea of "no matter if I fail, I have pro" then your turnover is for granted. Pro on a troll is for rerolling 3d blocks, not more. |
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torsoboy
Joined: Nov 23, 2004
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Jan 16, 2006 - 10:14 |
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I've found that the best use for big guys in CD teams is the fact that you can field one hobgoblin less, thus improving your team's staying power on the field. In light of that fact, I choose the bigguy with the better AV, which is the troll. |
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Drud
Joined: Jan 27, 2005
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Jan 16, 2006 - 10:24 |
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| angelface wrote: | | Pro is untrustworthy, so if any of your actions is based on the idea of "no matter if I fail, I have pro" then your turnover is for granted. Pro on a troll is for rerolling 3d blocks, not more. |
or rerolling really stupid, or rerolling double skulls/both down on an 2D-block. Pro makes it safer to do 2D-blocks in the end of your turn. Instead of a turnover 1 out of 9 blocks (~11%), you'd get turnovers 5 out of 81 blocks (~6%), the chances are much lower with block of course. I'd also pick block before pro almost any day.
And I still wouldn't use my BG (except if he was a Mino, which I generally dont like) for anything (blocking) if he was tieing up an important opponent player, he could go stupid  |
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Rijssiej
Joined: Jan 04, 2005
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Jan 16, 2006 - 10:30 |
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With big guys on a CD team definately go for a troll. With the higher AV and the regen he's much less likely to get injured and as you usually don't want your big guys to do anything other then tying up opponents and getting hit the durability is the most important. You really don't want to spend your blitz (usually most important action of the turn) on a big guy that fails 1 in 6 times. |
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angelface
Joined: Mar 23, 2004
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Jan 16, 2006 - 11:28 |
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| Quote: | | or rerolling really stupid, or rerolling double skulls/both down on an 2D-block. Pro makes it safer to do 2D-blocks in the end of your turn. |
I was talking about purposive uses, not the letsblockoncemore turn ending or so. Beginning your turn with a big guy is still risky even with pro, as is performing any vital action in your game plan. You simply cant base anything on bg's. |
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