Laviak
Joined: Jul 19, 2004
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Jan 17, 2006 - 12:02 |
 
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OK, this poll is for SWL coaches who are interested in a TR100 (or so) tournament for starting new Fringe teams. Just want to get an idea of what the preferred options are.
The basis of the rules is:
- 8 / 16 team tournament
- New (or newish) Fringe teams
- Coaches that drop out / concede a match will be humiliated - especially those who concede a match.
Really, it's just something to get those brand new teams up and running, and you get to play in a tournament at the same time 
Feel free to make other suggestions by posting below!
Edit (18-01-2006, AM):
OK, I will definitely look at swiss and round robin as other options. Round robin of course would need a smaller number of competitors. Probably atm swiss would be preferred as it allows all the teams to get a few games in, but keeps the tournament fairly quick. |
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ClayInfinity
Joined: Aug 15, 2003
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Jan 17, 2006 - 12:04 |
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I like it... a new team cup.... sounds good.
I'd play basically anything.... even a Swiss.
C |
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Patrician
Joined: Sep 14, 2005
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Jan 17, 2006 - 12:16 |
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I think a KO isn't the best format, namely as those who go out early get about as much benefit as playing one normal Fringe game. Therefore, I voted for Toast. Pie is good, but you can't have Vegemite pie. |
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Laviak
Joined: Jul 19, 2004
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Jan 17, 2006 - 12:16 |
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I guess we could even vary it round a bit from one tourney to the next. |
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bartgoon
Joined: Dec 27, 2004
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Jan 17, 2006 - 13:22 |
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That is one extremely even spread for a poll 
My suggestion would be 4-8 team round robins with TR 100-120, and if you fill one, start another. |
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danielcollins
Joined: Apr 04, 2005
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Jan 17, 2006 - 14:37 |
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i agree with bartgoon. That'd be the structure most likely to be easily filled, once it's up and running you can always change to suit the situation. Maybe you could even give preference to the new guys turning up, then it would truly be "fledgling" |
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Longshanks
Joined: Feb 02, 2005
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Jan 17, 2006 - 21:48 |
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Good idea - there do seem to be a lot of high TR teams in fringe so it can sometimes be difficult for lower ranked teams to get games. I voted for 8 teams (quicker tournament) and I agree with Patrician that KO is not the way to go if the purpose is to help to improve the teams TR.
If you can run multiple 'quick-fire' tournaments, even better - maybe that would suit 4 team round-robin comp's better?
While I like swiss as a concept, it's probably unecessary if the teams are in the small TR band suggested (which I'm cool with - I voted 100-120).
The problem with round-robin I suppose (especially if it's 8 teams) is that it won't be quick which presumably is what we're aiming at, meaning the newer coaches (in particular) will have teams tied up in a comp and unable to play pick-up matches. [Answer=make more teams people!]
So a question - would there be a problem, assuming the fumbbl tournament structure could support it - if the tourney was round-robin but without scheduled rounds? Where you played every team once as quick as can - who you play just depends on whos online at the time. Set a deadline for the tournament as a whole (2 weeks????) not the match ups. In otherwords could one coach play three or four matches before others had played any or 1 or two.
I'm not sure that made sense. You decide |
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Longshanks
Joined: Feb 02, 2005
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Jan 17, 2006 - 21:53 |
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An afterthought.
| Quote: | | Maybe you could even give preference to the new guys turning up, then it would truly be "fledgling" |
Noooooo! How else am I going to win any games if I can't pick on newbies |
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ClayInfinity
Joined: Aug 15, 2003
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Jan 17, 2006 - 23:01 |
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| Longshanks wrote: |
So a question - would there be a problem, assuming the fumbbl tournament structure could support it - if the tourney was round-robin but without scheduled rounds? Where you played every team once as quick as can - who you play just depends on whos online at the time. Set a deadline for the tournament as a whole (2 weeks????) not the match ups. In otherwords could one coach play three or four matches before others had played any or 1 or two.
I'm not sure that made sense. You decide |
You can do this with a small open round robin. 8 teams, 7 games, play them in any order you like, but play them within a set time (2 weeks is nice, but heavy going for 7 games).
The beauty of Open Round Robins is that any number of teams are possible (ie 5 teams = 4 games).
The downside is that there will be cherry picking... everyone will want to play the dwarf coach last when the others have an x game lead in terms of team development... this happened with a couple of table top leagues in my experience. |
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annachie
Joined: Jul 27, 2004
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Jan 17, 2006 - 23:22 |
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4 team round robins, with a designated game day/night. Indeed, there's a chance to get the whole tourney played in a night. (Not that you could enforce a game day/night of course, but the idea's still good.) |
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hoiyes
Joined: Jan 11, 2006
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Jan 18, 2006 - 00:36 |
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Yay. I hope my dark elv- err i mean 'humans' can join. It has been hard to find low ranked teams to play against. D: |
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Wallace
Joined: May 26, 2004
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Jan 18, 2006 - 00:56 |
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How about an 8 or 16 team swiss tourney? This would keep it competative and allow a greater spread of TR ro compete, since the swiss system should keep giving reasonable matchups.
It's academic for me though, since I don't have any low TR teams in the fringe and like to keep it to retired SWL teams rather than making new ones. |
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annachie
Joined: Jul 27, 2004
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Jan 18, 2006 - 02:07 |
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I like the idea of 4 to 6 teams, just to keep them quick. |
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ozjesting
Joined: Jan 27, 2004
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Jan 18, 2006 - 02:55 |
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Of course at the end of all this we have even MORE teams in fringe with high TR and new guys are stuck again 
I have not voted and shall not participate. Too many for me atm as it is...but I look forward to challangers rising for the Blue and Red Crowes sometime soon |
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Laviak
Joined: Jul 19, 2004
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Jan 18, 2006 - 03:33 |
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| ozjesting wrote: | | I have not voted... |
well, if you're not making a serious vote ... at least choose between toast and pie |
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