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| What do you think of Coach Ratings |
| Just a number of useless meaning ??? |
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8% |
[ 7 ] |
| Just an Ego Issue for some Coaches ??? |
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62% |
[ 49 ] |
| Just causes more Cherrypicking ??? |
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29% |
[ 23 ] |
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| Total Votes : 79 |
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OverDose
Joined: Apr 07, 2005
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May 29, 2006 - 11:55 |
 
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| sk8bcn wrote: | | Overdose, I'll gladely "cherrypick" you (since I must be a cherrypicker). |
You must've misunderstood. I did not say that every coach with a 50 % win percentage and high CR are cherry pickers. I said that even though it is rare, some coaches with low win percentage and high CR cherry pick.
edit.| sk8bcn wrote: | | Vanguard however has a specific profile. He won smacks. Question is, can he stay at his ranking or not? |
I dunno but I've seen him play ; )
And seriously, how can a coach with a ranking of 94 rise to 150 in a few matches?
http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=coach&op=development&coach=6052 |
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SnakeSanders
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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May 29, 2006 - 12:02 |
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sk8bcn
Joined: Apr 13, 2004
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May 29, 2006 - 12:03 |
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94: too bad it was before the reset. The recordopedia doesn't save these records?
ps: yes Overdose, I mis-understood you. My apologies. |
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FischerKing
Joined: Oct 25, 2003
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May 29, 2006 - 16:25 |
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Just dont compare winn % to ranking, you will only missread it, its foolish. |
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pac
Joined: Oct 03, 2005
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May 29, 2006 - 17:05 |
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To examine only Coach Rating is like looking at a player and looking only at the number of casualties that player has caused (for example) - and nothing else about it whatsoever. By itself it's not very useful information.
If the player has caused no casualties, it might not be dangerous - it might be a Thrower who never blocks. Or it might be a Mummy, which just hasn't played any games yet. Without looking at more information, you have no way to judge.
If the player has caused quite a lot of casualties, you still don't know quite how or why that came about. It could indicate lots of bashy skills, or it could be a lucky streak. It could be that this is the coach's favourite player with whom he prefers to blitz each turn. Or it could just indicate a very large number of games played and blocks thrown.
To consider win% alongside Coach Rating adds a little more information - like looking at number of blocks thrown as well as number of casualties caused - but it's still not very enlightening. There are a large number of possible explanations for a player with an unusually high or low rate of casualties per block, just as there is an extremely wide variety of explanations for why a coach might have a CR and win% which seem out of kilter with one another.
In short: if you only examine two variables, taken from a complex system, in isolation, you can hardly be surprised when the data throws up patterns you can't explain.
In even shorter: what Fischerking said.  |
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sk8bcn
Joined: Apr 13, 2004
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May 29, 2006 - 17:26 |
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| pac wrote: | To examine only Coach Rating is like looking at a player and looking only at the number of casualties that player has caused (for example) - and nothing else about it whatsoever. By itself it's not very useful information.
If the player has caused no casualties, it might not be dangerous - it might be a Thrower who never blocks. Or it might be a Mummy, which just hasn't played any games yet. Without looking at more information, you have no way to judge.
If the player has caused quite a lot of casualties, you still don't know quite how or why that came about. It could indicate lots of bashy skills, or it could be a lucky streak. It could be that this is the coach's favourite player with whom he prefers to blitz each turn. Or it could just indicate a very large number of games played and blocks thrown.
To consider win% alongside Coach Rating adds a little more information - like looking at number of blocks thrown as well as number of casualties caused - but it's still not very enlightening. There are a large number of possible explanations for a player with an unusually high or low rate of casualties per block, just as there is an extremely wide variety of explanations for why a coach might have a CR and win% which seem out of kilter with one another.
In short: if you only examine two variables, taken from a complex system, in isolation, you can hardly be surprised when the data throws up patterns you can't explain.
In even shorter: what Fischerking said. |
CR is IMO has a close correlation to coaching skill. It's not all but strongly linked. I don't think that that 180 is wayyyyy better than that 170, but certainly better than that 140. Not 100% sure. yes! but very very likely. |
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