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Do you like my proposal?
YES you are a genius!
19%
 19%  [ 8 ]
NO I hate you!
71%
 71%  [ 30 ]
Yes, but I am a cherry-picker
9%
 9%  [ 4 ]
Total Votes : 42


lucifugo



Joined: Aug 02, 2003
Post   Posted: Jul 19, 2006 - 01:09 Reply with quote Back to top
My ideal system to stop Cherry Picking:

When a coach wants to play he submits a request to the website and select which of his teams are avaible.
Then the site controls if there are other coaches waiting for play with strenght (+/- 40 for example) compatible.
If there are, the site automatically arrange the match.

In this manner the coach can't select his opponent at all.

Result: NO MORE CHERRY-PICKING! Very Happy

What do you think? Question

***Variant***
The site arrange the match and then it will communicate you your opponent. Now you have the choice to declinate the offer but you lose some points in your coach value.
No bonus for your opponent


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Synn



Joined: Dec 13, 2004
Post   Posted: Jul 19, 2006 - 01:11 Reply with quote Back to top
That it would never work or happen.

__Synn
lucifugo



Joined: Aug 02, 2003
Post   Posted: Jul 19, 2006 - 01:12 Reply with quote Back to top
Why do you think it will never work?
Idolen



Joined: Aug 02, 2003
Post   Posted: Jul 19, 2006 - 01:13 Reply with quote Back to top
Why don't you read some of the 100+ threads that have adressed this topic already, and then come back with some new input.....


EDIT: Lovely avatar you got there Synn =)

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Woodstock



Joined: Dec 11, 2004
Post   Posted: Jul 19, 2006 - 01:13 Reply with quote Back to top
Synn wrote:
That it would never work or happen.

__Synn


I totally agree... Lets all make Chaos Killerteams and kill all the elfs!!
It totally takes away the idea of ranked, Open Division.
brann1963



Joined: Jun 22, 2006
Post   Posted: Jul 19, 2006 - 01:14 Reply with quote Back to top
the idea itself isnt all bad.... will also make very random and fun encounters.... hehehehe... but probably there are many that will oppose such a thing. But, if you allow the strenght difference to be as high as 40 without being able to chose yourself who to play -it can easily turn into "cherry-picking" after all. Imagine a skaven, elf or any other av7 team being forced to play a 40 stronger dwarf, orc or chaos that will end up in a blood bath. And if its another elf team with 40 more in rating, it they will most likely be outplayed in every single part of their own "strenghts". Personally, i can like your idea, but the strenght should be reduced to max 10 in difference.
shagga



Joined: Mar 26, 2006
Post   Posted: Jul 19, 2006 - 01:14 Reply with quote Back to top
Cherry picking is not a problem if everybody cherry picks Smile
Idolen



Joined: Aug 02, 2003
Post   Posted: Jul 19, 2006 - 01:15 Reply with quote Back to top
Only way to avoid cherry-picking is to play tourney's. And by experience I can recommend not to play Woodies. Embarassed

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lucifugo



Joined: Aug 02, 2003
Post   Posted: Jul 19, 2006 - 01:16 Reply with quote Back to top
The 40 value is for example. It can be lowered.

Cherry picking IS a problem because everybody cherry picks
WiNG



Joined: Dec 05, 2004
Post   Posted: Jul 19, 2006 - 01:18 Reply with quote Back to top
I do not, I am cherrypicked instead
Woodstock



Joined: Dec 11, 2004
Post   Posted: Jul 19, 2006 - 01:21 Reply with quote Back to top
There is no cherrypicking... Everyone is free to take and make any challenges... If you dont like it, dont play... Easy as that.
Optihut



Joined: Dec 16, 2004
Post   Posted: Jul 19, 2006 - 01:21 Reply with quote Back to top
Shameless self-promotional plug: I am already doing that with my Tyrant Brigade http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=205872
lucifugo



Joined: Aug 02, 2003
Post   Posted: Jul 19, 2006 - 01:22 Reply with quote Back to top
It is possible to add a minor variation:

The site arrange the match and then it will communicate you your opponent. Now you have the choice to declinate the offer but you lose some points in your coach value.
Flynn



Joined: Aug 02, 2003
Post   Posted: Jul 19, 2006 - 01:22 Reply with quote Back to top
not to mention all the terrible match ups that could then be exploited

flings vs vamps
dorfs or cd vs stunties or zons
ogres vs norse (or really anything)

plus there is no way to accurately hire wiz or stars for the match, which is most important for halflings who can live or die based on the number of rrs the opponent has

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Woodstock



Joined: Dec 11, 2004
Post   Posted: Jul 19, 2006 - 01:24 Reply with quote Back to top
lucifugo wrote:
It is possible to add a minor variation:

The site arrange the match and then it will communicate you your opponent. Now you have the choice to declinate the offer but you lose some points in your coach value.


Like coach value (CR) really means something on fumbbl Laughing
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