Wolbum
Joined: Jul 14, 2010
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Jul 29, 2019 - 20:34 |
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I recently saw a facebook poll asking about who do people prefer to use on Chaos or Nurgle teams between Grashnak or Borak. To my surprise, Grashnak got about 76 votes and Lord Borak only 14.
Since Fumbbl has less overall number of coaches but ones with far more experience on average, I am wondering what the opinion is here and why?
To you, who do you think is better and why? |
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razmus
Joined: Jun 23, 2017
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Jul 29, 2019 - 20:53 |
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First, I should preface with: I love playing as Nurgle - they make me laugh.
And in those games as Nurgle, I change which of the two I take... but I tend towards Grashnak when my opponent will be predominantly ST3 and have dodge. (I can't have tackle with either star, but a blitzing Grashnak can have six block dice to try to get a greased elf off the field!) That said, I've also learned that if my opponent has a decent chance of hitting back, and I might need a roadblock... Grashnak's armor is just too thin to be reliable. |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Jul 29, 2019 - 21:23 |
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i think it depends on your opponents really |
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ArrestedDevelopment
Joined: Sep 14, 2015
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Jul 29, 2019 - 21:36 |
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It depends, really.
Grash can be really useful when what you're really looking for is just the extra ST to stand about in places, but obviously if you're in a situation where the player you take needs to block, Borak is much less inherently risky. |
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Java
Joined: Jan 27, 2018
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Jul 29, 2019 - 21:44 |
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Grashnak is a much more reliable minotaur.
Borak is a beefed up chaos warrior.
The first has more appeal as it gives your team something it cannot have otherwise. The second has Dirty Player. |
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Janitor
Joined: Apr 25, 2019
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Jul 29, 2019 - 21:55 |
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Grashnak can surf a treeman. Borak can get sent off the second he tries to apply his Dirty Player. |
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razmus
Joined: Jun 23, 2017
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Jul 29, 2019 - 22:04 |
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Janitor wrote: | Grashnak can surf a treeman. Borak can get sent off the second he tries to apply his Dirty Player. |
Grashnak would need the treeman to cooperate to being surfed. (He's one Juggernaut short.) |
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Wolbum
Joined: Jul 14, 2010
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Jul 29, 2019 - 22:23 |
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ArrestedDevelopment wrote: | It depends, really.
Grash can be really useful when what you're really looking for is just the extra ST to stand about in places, but obviously if you're in a situation where the player you take needs to block, Borak is much less inherently risky. |
I have had mixed experience with both. Borak is less mobile but if the fight degenerates into a massive scrum fest of attrition, I think he can be solid with block and Str5.
On the other hand I found Grashnak a super safety or line back and he can surf and also break open boxes or roadblock. A bit like in the SPIKE! Magazine, where he stays behind and keeps catching any break throughs.
But I am still curious to other FUMBBLers views on them are. |
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Dominik
Joined: Oct 29, 2004
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Jul 29, 2019 - 22:33 |
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For dodgers I go with Grashnak, but for heavy hitters I prefer Borak. But sometimes I still go with Grashnak to have the opportunity to crowd surf or if the opponent has a few Strength 5 players and I want to neutralize one of them. |
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garyt1
Joined: Mar 12, 2011
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Jul 29, 2019 - 22:43 |
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Is it correct that Gnashrak doesn't have Wild Animal? Makes him decent then. Though I would still tend towards a Block s5 player if I was for example playing a NAF tournament where I don't know opposition race. No block and loner is a pain. |
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Janitor
Joined: Apr 25, 2019
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Jul 29, 2019 - 23:42 |
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razmus wrote: | Janitor wrote: | Grashnak can surf a treeman. Borak can get sent off the second he tries to apply his Dirty Player. |
Grashnak would need the treeman to cooperate to being surfed. (He's one Juggernaut short.) |
I totally thought he had juggs. Shows how much I play chaos teams. |
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MenonaLoco
Joined: Jan 05, 2016
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Jul 30, 2019 - 06:31 |
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Bah, the dirty player on Borak is just another nice extra. You use it, when the game is already decided. harr harr harrr... |
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Java
Joined: Jan 27, 2018
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Jul 30, 2019 - 09:06 |
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garyt1 wrote: | No block and loner is a pain. |
Strength 6, horns, you'll be rolling three dice with no support needed most of the time. You'll be 3-dicing flipping Zara with 2 supports. If you're fishing for pows, better roll 6 times.
Although, for the purpose of having a high strength roadblock to park in front of stuff, it's debatable wether st6 is better or worse than st5 block.
Still, we're talking about buying stars for teams with high positional and RR prices the "optimal" choice is probably none of the above, if you want or must take one, pick the one you like the most based on flavour and inclinations. |
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Lorebass
Joined: Jun 25, 2010
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Wolbum
Joined: Jul 14, 2010
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Jul 30, 2019 - 15:34 |
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Surprised Lord Borak still has a lead. |
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