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koadah



Joined: Mar 30, 2005

Post   Posted: May 10, 2024 - 13:33 Reply with quote Back to top

There will of course be times when someone does a T16 foul out spite, frustration, nastiness, etc.

Maybe they are frustrated with the dice. Maybe something that you said or did during the game has upset them. Maybe they just had a terrible day/week/month/year/life and this game was yet one more thing to go wrong.

If you do feel tempted to T16 foul for one of those reasons, be aware that may cause your "wicked" opponent to laugh even more. Twisted Evil

In a big, open environment like [C]ompetitive division opponents could be playing for widely differing reasons.
With probably, widely differing states of mind.

I think that it is a case of finding the balance between "being kind to each other" and "playing the way that we want to play"

Edit: If you opt to play the Secret Stunty Cup you will be expected to foul brutally and often!
I suppose that there should be a prize for whichever team fouls most in a game. At least. Mr. Green

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razmus



Joined: Jun 23, 2017

Post   Posted: May 10, 2024 - 16:11 Reply with quote Back to top

koadah wrote:
I suppose that there should be a prize for whichever team fouls most in a game. At least. Mr. Green

But koadah, done right - fouling is it's OWN reward.

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Bram



Joined: Jan 04, 2008

Post   Posted: May 10, 2024 - 18:48 Reply with quote Back to top

[quote=In league environment:
you'll want not only to win the single game - you'll want to win league / finals / playoffs. Therefore every removal hurts the opponent - and lowers their chances to reach this goal at themself. Every removal is an advantage to you.

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This is not necessarily true. Once you have beaten an opponent, he is likely to end up behind you in the league. However, he can still help you by beating other opponents, thus increasing your chance of ending up first in the league. But when you destroy your opponent's team, he will most likely lose against your other opponents from the league too, thus increasing the chance that another opponent will end up before you. So, by killing your opponent's team, you may well be shooting a bullet in your own foot.
awambawamb



Joined: Feb 17, 2008

Post   Posted: May 10, 2024 - 19:43 Reply with quote Back to top

Bram wrote:
This is not necessarily true. Once you have beaten an opponent, he is likely to end up behind you in the league.


depends on the scoring system, and how well you fare against other opponents.
as always, a good start is a lot of job done.

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DragonBallZac



Joined: May 26, 2021

Post   Posted: May 10, 2024 - 22:36 Reply with quote Back to top

As a coach that has fouled 9742 times in 2188 games.... I would like to say Fouling is not a choice.... its a lifestyle! If you are playing stunty... you MUST foul on t8/16 before scoring!
kozak



Joined: Feb 25, 2017

Post   Posted: Oct 20, 2024 - 21:32 Reply with quote Back to top

Yes, sometimes they do it for fun. Sometimes they do it for griefing.

Even it gave you no SPPs you have the benefit to remove a piece from the pitch and it gave you more chance to win.

I have won some games by fouling after getting beaten up in first half. It was an effective way to removes his players.

And of course the respectful turn 16 foul!

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koadah



Joined: Mar 30, 2005

Post   Posted: Oct 20, 2024 - 22:39 Reply with quote Back to top

Measly 17 fouls but the last was a winner! Twisted Evil

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awambawamb



Joined: Feb 17, 2008

Post   Posted: Oct 21, 2024 - 00:03 Reply with quote Back to top

koadah wrote:
Measly 17 fouls but the last was a winner! Twisted Evil


13 fouls by Borak. I'm envious

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smeborg



Joined: Jan 04, 2019

Post   Posted: Oct 21, 2024 - 00:48 Reply with quote Back to top

I have no problem with turn 8 and turn 16 fouls, whether or not they might help your team.

In a tourney (BBT is one) where you are facing (say) a good coach, with a good team and/or with a well-developed player, it might well be to your advantage to foul, in order to: eliminate the player from the comp; make life more difficult in the next match (and subsequent matches) for the opposing team; put pressure on the opposing team's Treasury, etc.. These are just some of the reasons. You might meet the team again, or you might reduce the future score of a team or squad that is in competition with you.

Even if these do not apply, fouling is well, fun...

Hope that helps.
CrisisChris



Joined: Dec 11, 2023

Post   Posted: Oct 21, 2024 - 16:50 Reply with quote Back to top

And consider this: A T8 (with a bench) and T16 foul is of no disadvantage to yourself. Even if you are send off, you do not need to worry... But I feel the pain of loosing a player to such an act of violence as well.

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Eboncrow



Joined: May 20, 2019

Post   Posted: Oct 21, 2024 - 21:56 Reply with quote Back to top

Eh, In my local meta, the turn 16 foul is a sign of respect to your opponent.

"If I see your team again, I want them as hurt as possible" and "If you didn't want him fouled, you would have protected him on turn 15." are the prevalent thoughts.

Foul every turn, always.
CL



Joined: Oct 20, 2023

Post   Posted: Oct 22, 2024 - 02:52 Reply with quote Back to top

ill let up, but if there just going to stand up and blitz me every turn then no. Its safer for my guys to foul every turn.
KidCrestHill



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Oct 22, 2024 - 03:02 Reply with quote Back to top

<wuhan> I would foul you with the ref.
<wuhan> I will foul you just for fun
<Tore> Hehe
<wuhan> I will foul you when it's late.
<wuhan> I will foul you on turn 8
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