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Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: Aug 14, 2025 - 19:46 Reply with quote Back to top

Stalling is blood bowl...clock management and risk mitigation is the whole game. Its where all Tactics stem from. When someone complains about stalling I assume they suck at the game and they have a very shallow understanding of it and the tactical depth this game offers.

And yeah I like your idea but a cap of 3+ is needed. Anymore than 6 moving players and it gets out of hand

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MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Aug 14, 2025 - 20:09 Reply with quote Back to top

Ok, so I suck at the game and I have a very shallow understanding of it! Good to know it,
I must be very lucky when I win!
Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: Aug 14, 2025 - 21:13 Reply with quote Back to top

MattDakka wrote:
Ok, so I suck at the game and I have a very shallow understanding of it! Good to know it,
I must be very lucky when I win!


I'm not talking about you Rolling Eyes

Stop assuming you're being attacked please.

I think you are trying to address something that people whinge about.
. But those people are fundamentally wrong.

You always stall and manage the clock, coz you know that's what the game is about.

Trying to stop stalling with anti stling rules however is miss guided.

It would be like forcing chess players to take opposing pieces at every opportunity

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MattDakka



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Post   Posted: Aug 15, 2025 - 00:42 Reply with quote Back to top

Garion wrote:

Stop assuming you're being attacked please.

I assumed it because I don't like stalling, especially the static one without risks. I acknowledge it's a big part of the game, but instead of a intended-by-design-concept, it could be just a workaround tactic developed by coaches to minimize the impact of Kick-Off event and removals on a game. The best way to reduce the chance of equalizing a TD is minimizing the opponent's turns left to scoring. The question is: are we sure that game designers play BB stalling as much as we do? Or do they play without stalling? Or with some stalling, but not until the very last turn of a Half? Would the game be better and more enjoyable with less stalling, especially the risk-free static one?

Garion wrote:
You always stall and manage the clock, coz you know that's what the game is about.

I thought it was a game about scoring TDs with a fantasy setting, not the game of fantasy stalling. I got accustomed with it over the years, because it's effective at achieving the win or tie, but it doesn't make me crazy about it. I'm pragmatic and I agree that it's brutally effective, I just doubt that the game is so good and so skilled with static stalling.
Garion wrote:
Trying to stop stalling with anti stling rules however is miss guided.

Stopping? No, just discouraging it a bit with some risks, so a game doesn't turn into a "park-the-cage-near-End-Zone-until-turn-8". Stalling would still be possible, but riskier. That's the idea.

Garion wrote:

It would be like forcing chess players to take opposing pieces at every opportunity

That thing exists: it's a Chess variant called Antichess aka Losing Chess aka Suicide Chess. Wink

Since this edition sucks and playing forever at an average TV of 1300 is disgusting, not to mention the failed Box draws, I spent some time looking for Chess variants, and now I know more 100 of them!
Zelmor



Joined: Sep 29, 2022

Post   Posted: Aug 15, 2025 - 01:43 Reply with quote Back to top

Go play chess and complain about how castling is stalling and shouldn't be practiced. Smile
Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: Aug 15, 2025 - 08:14 Reply with quote Back to top

MattDakka wrote:

Garion wrote:

It would be like forcing chess players to take opposing pieces at every opportunity

That thing exists: it's a Chess variant called Antichess aka Losing Chess aka Suicide Chess. Wink



Yes... anti chess. That's correct.
vis-à-vis implementing anti stalling rules is anti blood bowl, and it's as bad for the game as anti chess rules are for chess.

As for - do the designers stall. Yes, yes they do. They write Tactics articles about it in their spike magazines. Because all the games Tactics stem from risk mitigation and clock management

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koadah



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Post   Posted: Aug 15, 2025 - 10:18 Reply with quote Back to top

Garion wrote:
Stalling is blood bowl...clock management and risk mitigation is the whole game. Its where all Tactics stem from. When someone complains about stalling I assume they suck at the game and they have a very shallow understanding of it and the tactical depth this game offers.


That is a bit strong, though.

Many people do prefer to play differently for a lot of different reasons.

I don't think that the game was intended to be taken as seriously as some take it.

For me, stalling fits the fluff. If we can sit at the goal line and beat the crap out of the opposition until the last turn, certainly we'll do that. Mr. Green

How often does excessive stalling "ruin" the game anyway?

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Garion



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Post   Posted: Aug 15, 2025 - 10:29 Reply with quote Back to top

koadah wrote:

How often does excessive stalling "ruin" the game anyway?


Exactly, this^ I've yet to see it spoil a game...

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