Da_Todfatha
Joined: Jul 06, 2004
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Apr 13, 2006 - 13:12 |
 
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Melmoth, I wanted to reply to your post just in case any new coaches are confused as to the process, but your team is good to go.
Once applied it may be a while for BB-pad and I to 'accept' a team into a tournament, simply because we want to keep separated those teams that are currently playing from the teams that are applied for the next running of the tourney.
Once applied, the OCCS staff can see which teams have applied, and in what order, this allows us to start the next tournament with as many coaches as we are able, on a first-come, first-served basis.
Thanks for playing, now will someone please stop Farinroderel from running away with it!?  |
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Wotfudboy
Joined: Feb 17, 2004
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Apr 25, 2006 - 10:26 |
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Frankenstein
Joined: Jan 26, 2005
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May 06, 2006 - 21:19 |
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| Quote: | | The OCCS implements a scoring system which decides on how teams are seeded for the tournaments. |
Just out of curiosity: How does this seeding process work?
I am quite surprised that the team currently placed 2nd would meet the team placed 12th in the first round of a 16-team tournament (Albion Regional Challenge 05-06) when 15 of the other 16 competing teams have less points in the currently running season of the OCCS. I would have expected they could not have meat before the final. |
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Melmoth
Joined: May 05, 2004
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May 10, 2006 - 10:06 |
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I just applied for several Cups.  |
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Mully
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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May 10, 2006 - 13:25 |
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In a 16 team tourney FUMBBL takes the 1st 8 teams and matches them vs 2nd the 8 teams in random order. So you could have 1 vs 9 in the 1st round.
Not great but its too much work for tourney organizers to go back in and switch everyone around manually. |
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AlvaroErize
Joined: Apr 28, 2006
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May 10, 2006 - 16:49 |
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Hi, I have a 202 Tr orc team, but i can easily lower the Tra bit.
Can I join, if so, how? |
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Frankenstein
Joined: Jan 26, 2005
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May 10, 2006 - 22:37 |
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| Mully wrote: | In a 16 team tourney FUMBBL takes the 1st 8 teams and matches them vs 2nd the 8 teams in random order. So you could have 1 vs 9 in the 1st round.
Not great but its too much work for tourney organizers to go back in and switch everyone around manually. |
That's not what happened, 1st team play against 3rd (based on OCCS points) in that particular tournament. |
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Mully
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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May 11, 2006 - 01:56 |
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Well then I think its because maye only the majors are seeded by OCCS points.
Pad is on vacation and wont be able to answer for another week. |
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Da_Todfatha
Joined: Jul 06, 2004
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May 11, 2006 - 17:40 |
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You first need to join the OCCS main group, then based on TR you may join the applicable Tourney that you want to play in.
team management is a big part of BB, FUMBBL, and the OCCS so trim TR if you want to or play at the higher level, either way welcome to the OCCS!!!
You can PM me if you need help, have questions, etc.
Thanks,
Da_Todfatha
| AlvaroErize wrote: | Hi, I have a 202 Tr orc team, but i can easily lower the Tra bit.
Can I join, if so, how? |
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Da_Todfatha
Joined: Jul 06, 2004
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May 11, 2006 - 17:44 |
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Farinroderel, I don't know where you were reading that seeding issue, it maybe a throwback to the way it used to be done, or it may mean just the Majors. If you can tell me where you read that I'll look into it.
Otherwise, like Mully said, BB-Pad is on vacation. I will tell you that it's tough enough making sure all the tourneys stay on schedule, I dunno if Pad wants to mess with seeding them like that, but he seems to be quite the statistician. |
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Frankenstein
Joined: Jan 26, 2005
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May 12, 2006 - 12:56 |
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| Da_Todfatha wrote: | | Farinroderel, I don't know where you were reading that seeding issue, it maybe a throwback to the way it used to be done, or it may mean just the Majors. If you can tell me where you read that I'll look into it. |
It's on the OCCS main page. I'll quote again:
| Quote: | -Scoring-
The OCCS implements a scoring system which decides on how teams are seeded for the tournaments. Points for games played within a tourney will be awarded as follows:
Win = 5pts
Tie = 3pts (this includes KO games decided by coin toss)
Loss = 1 pt
Concession = 0pts (if game actually played)
Forfeit = -5pts (penalty not enforced if next opponent forfeits too) |
| Quote: | | Otherwise, like Mully said, BB-Pad is on vacation. I will tell you that it's tough enough making sure all the tourneys stay on schedule, I dunno if Pad wants to mess with seeding them like that, but he seems to be quite the statistician. |
Well, I 'm aware of that, that's why I asked| Farinroderel wrote: |
Just out of curiosity: How does this seeding process work? |
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BB-Pad
Joined: May 05, 2004
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May 14, 2006 - 19:55 |
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The OCCS scoring being used for seeding was indeed a leftover from the old format. The problem now is that it means that the scores need to be transferred to the sub-groups which for Minors is really too much admin work. I think for the quarterly Majors it adds a certain incentive to do well in the minors, so I'd propose keeping it and I've changed the Main page to reflect this but I'm open to other ideas. |
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Wotfudboy
Joined: Feb 17, 2004
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May 14, 2006 - 20:10 |
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Does this OCCS feel to anyone else like a bash fest? I've entered 7 teams in to different tournaments this season, with only 4 teams going into more than one mini tournament. Surely the set up of this, being a monthly accumulation of points over the year is heavily in favour of av9 teams?
In the top 20 so far in the OCCS there are just two Agility4 teams, and eight Armour9 teams. Of all the teams entered into the competition there are just 7 Agility4 teams and 22 Armour9 teams with a 200+TR.
I'm as bad, as I have Orcs, Chaos Dwarves, Undead, Dwarves, Norse, as well as High Elves and Pro Elves... of those only the Orcs, Chaos Dwarves, Undead and Pro Elves have entered more than one competition.
My question is, is there something that can be done to redress the balance? I figure that after I rebuild by elves once again I will only play in the majors and hope to get to the final in each one, because I av7 teams, in particular Wood Elves and Pro Elves, who are less bashy in nature, can't compete in both minis and majors without getting crunched every other game.
Don't get me wrong... I like the challenge of playing my pro Elves against bashier teams and winning, but I am getting disheartened by the state of affairs. My team hasn't done badly, but I've played against killer teams for at least 4 games in a row. 
Perhaps I'm just depressed at the current state of my team, so don't flame me too much!  |
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Mully
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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May 14, 2006 - 23:33 |
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Wotfud - no, I feel exactly the same way. And as a coach of CDs can't point the blame to others. I skipped this month's tourneys primarily because almost all the teams were one dimensional and it didnt look like fun.
This is no fault of the league commish. It is a probelm with blood bowl in general. At high TRs, tourneys favor the high AV teams because sooner or later the low AV team gets "whacked". Sucks but true.
I suggest putting some type of race limitation into each tourney. Ie no more than 4 of 8 teams can be Orc/CD/Khemri etc. If the tourney doesnt fill, then reopen it up to all races. Then , at least, you can blame the low AV coaches for not getting it when they had the chance.
Not a great solution, but Ive banged my head against the wall about this issue over the past year and have yet to figure out a good one yet. |
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Da_Todfatha
Joined: Jul 06, 2004
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May 17, 2006 - 19:42 |
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We can blame the Agility team coaches because the coaches that apply are accepted in the order in which they apply, therefore if 15 agility teams apply and only one ST team, then it'll be a 16 team tourney with 15 Agility teams. It's just you gotta flood the system with AG teams. but lets face it AV 7 doesn't protect you much from another Agility team either, and it's easier and safer to pick your matches carefully in open play than to risk getting an unfavorable matchup in a tourney.
as to team limits...The only problem I have with limiting the number of a certain kind of team is how outraged would those same Agility coaches be if they saw me eliminate an agility squad from a tournament and recruit an orc team to take it's place in order to maintain balance?
Anyway, just mentioning it here in the forums seems to have done the trick as there are a number of AG teams for the June Tournaments. Most notably, RRC: 2 WE, and 1 Skaven; ARS has DE, HE, AM,Skaven, Khemri; Albion: CD, HUM, Rotter, Khemri, ELF; Amorcial: Chaosx4, Humanx2, CD, Necro. |
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