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| What a Legend would take |
| Pro - Maximum Pain |
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20% |
[ 12 ] |
| Juggernaut - No fend can stop me! |
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27% |
[ 16 ] |
| Grab - Filthy Sidesteppers |
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6% |
[ 4 ] |
| Two heads - Mobile blitz? |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
| Something Else? |
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27% |
[ 16 ] |
| Rotter Pie |
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17% |
[ 10 ] |
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| Total Votes : 58 |
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Antithesisoftime
Joined: Aug 20, 2014
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Aug 20, 2016 - 12:02 |
 
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| Semitence wrote: | | Everyone says Pro is terrible without giving a solid reason. Just "it's bad". I don't get it. It lets me turn pushes into pows just over 1/4 of the time, and only results in a turnover 1/72. Also means I can use a RR during the turn, or not burn one "cos it'd be nice to kill this dude". |
Pro is a great skill, on the right player.
This is not that player.
He lacks any of the skills pro works best with (dauntless, jump up, Bloodlust, Loner)
Have you considered dauntless? Sure you're a ST4 blitzer, but that does you little good if you can only get one assist on a ST5 (or stronger) big. With that one assist and dauntless, you now get 2D blitzes on bigger opponents. Believe me, you need answers to Special Players |
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licker
Joined: Jul 10, 2009
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Aug 21, 2016 - 03:32 |
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| bancobat wrote: | | regarding your team, as your only killer pestigor, i guess he does all the blitzes, so i would take Frenzy to maximize this point and his removal potential |
Indeed, Frenzy will increase the chances that he is removed. |
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thoralf
Joined: Mar 06, 2008
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Aug 21, 2016 - 06:08 |
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There is always Sneaky Git. |
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bghandras
Joined: Feb 06, 2011
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Aug 21, 2016 - 09:08 |
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Oooh, here is the sneaky git argument! End of debate, lets do something else.  |
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ArrestedDevelopment
Joined: Sep 14, 2015
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Aug 21, 2016 - 09:30 |
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| thoralf wrote: | | There is always Sneaky Git. |
That's a double.
You're thinking of thick skull. |
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bghandras
Joined: Feb 06, 2011
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Aug 21, 2016 - 11:47 |
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Thick skull is actually semi-useful on a pomber. Some protection against fouls. So it should not be in the ballpark of Sneaky git. |
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ArrestedDevelopment
Joined: Sep 14, 2015
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Aug 21, 2016 - 11:56 |
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hehe for sure, it has a tiny, tiny bit of value. But sneaky git isn't even available! |
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bancobat
Joined: Aug 25, 2013
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Aug 21, 2016 - 18:26 |
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| licker wrote: | | bancobat wrote: | | regarding your team, as your only killer pestigor, i guess he does all the blitzes, so i would take Frenzy to maximize this point and his removal potential |
Indeed, Frenzy will increase the chances that he is removed. |
as bghandras said, only if he can't manage the skill, so i don't get what is your point...
sure that if you play bad, it's a bad skill... |
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licker
Joined: Jul 10, 2009
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Aug 22, 2016 - 00:31 |
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| bancobat wrote: | | licker wrote: | | bancobat wrote: | | regarding your team, as your only killer pestigor, i guess he does all the blitzes, so i would take Frenzy to maximize this point and his removal potential |
Indeed, Frenzy will increase the chances that he is removed. |
as bghandras said, only if he can't manage the skill, so i don't get what is your point...
sure that if you play bad, it's a bad skill... |
Part of the management of the skill is NOT using it.
Kind of defeats the purpose then of maximizing this guys ability to kill things.
I know what I'm talking about, I'm not convinced the 'frenzy all cpomb!' crowd does. |
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Catalyst32
Joined: Jul 14, 2008
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Aug 22, 2016 - 02:07 |
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| MattDakka wrote: | | Catalyst32 wrote: | | Dominik wrote: | | With Juggernaut you have a 50% chance of takedown against a Wrestle player with a 1db. One CPomber should have Juggernaut in a team. |
No. You still have a 33% chance to take them down. Rolling Both Down is turned into a Push with Juggernaut.
You still must roll a POW or a Push/POW to knock down an opponent with Wrestle.
There is no advantage gained in Knocking Down and opponent with THIS player by taking Juggernaut. |
"Juggernaut: if the player takes a Blitz action, the opposing player may not use his Fend, Stand Firm or Wrestle skills against the Juggernaut player's blocks.
The Juggernaut player may also choose to treat a 'Both Down' result as if a 'Pushed' result has been rolled instead for blocks he makes during a Blitz action."
Therefore Wrestle doesn't protect from Both Down result of a Juggernaut player who is blitzing.
The Juggernaut player MAY choose to threat Both Down as Pushed if he wants, but he's not forced to do so; he can keep Both Down and knock down the Wrestle player if he choose to not turn Both Down into Pushed.
Only Block protects from being knocked down by a blitzing Juggernaut player, Wrestle doesn't. |
Seriously?
If so Juggernaut is a slightly better skill than I thought it was.
And Wrestle is a slightly worse skill than I thought it was.
I'm going to try to restate what you said in different words. Tell me if this is still accurate.
You're saying basically that:
"Wrestle is more or less nullified, as if the player did not have Wrestle at all, if he is Blitzed be a player with Juggernaut.
So, because the player does not have Wrestle the Blitzing player can bring him down on a Both Down result." |
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mrt1212
Joined: Feb 26, 2013
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Aug 22, 2016 - 02:11 |
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Correct. It's pretty nifty that way. |
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thoralf
Joined: Mar 06, 2008
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Aug 22, 2016 - 03:08 |
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| ArrestedDevelopment wrote: | | thoralf wrote: | | There is always Sneaky Git. |
That's a double.
You're thinking of thick skull. |
You read my mind, even well hidden behind one. |
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