soranos
Joined: May 14, 2009
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Feb 25, 2012 - 13:43 |
 
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The Lions were my first [R]anked team on fumbbl, so they hold a special place in my heart.
Still they are used to golden days of LRB4 were SPP balance was a good thing and you grabbed every Stat+ that you could get, nowadays in the cold-hearted world of TV efficiency they run in more and more problems, mostly for one reason: In place of cheap, basic and efficient elf skills (blodge, SS), they have amounted too many expensive AG+ and guard skills. This bloat matched with the fact that I am not really great at utilizing AG+ players makes it tough for the team to scrap a win against just about anybody . The problem is most obvious with Thileria (no.11) my ag6, guard-lino, who due to the lack of blodge is highly fragile, costs me 180k a game and due to the lack of dodge can’t even make reliable use of his best asset at this point.
Still, I think this group has some potential – as they are probably the most agile team in all of fumbbl and were able to amass 4 guards to compensate for the lack of ST+ - and with a few skill picks they might be able to at least be a threat in a major qualifier or a legend smack.
After I rolled yet another AG+ (on my blodge catcher) and finally turned down another double in favor of wrestle (on the ag5 dodg, -av lino), I decided to get some advice in the forums. How can I get this team going again?
Now my challenge to you is following: give some long-time advice, but restrain from getting into player-sacking-mode, as I don’t like retiring perfectly fine players solely for TV-reasons (exception are raised zombies with undead). The only retirement I would consider is no.10 (even though, I think he can make for some decent line fodder for 2-3 more games). So, I ask you guys:
Who would you identify as the 3-5 key players on the team that deserve the apo?
Who should I look to skill up next and what should they get?
Who at this point is the most detrimental to team success?
Do you see the potential for them to be a real threat in 3-5 games?
Are they already a potent team that should rather consider getting rid of me than the other way around?
Don’t let the lions down!
Here is the team link:
http://www.fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=569445 |
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pythrr
Joined: Mar 07, 2006
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Feb 25, 2012 - 13:49 |
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stop elf bowling with them. just sayin.
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pythrr
Joined: Mar 07, 2006
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Feb 25, 2012 - 13:50 |
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also, the 2 blitzers are cool. no one else really notable. |
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soranos
Joined: May 14, 2009
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Feb 25, 2012 - 13:57 |
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pythrr
Joined: Mar 07, 2006
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Feb 25, 2012 - 14:00 |
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0 fail epic |
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pythrr
Joined: Mar 07, 2006
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Feb 25, 2012 - 14:01 |
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fire all the perm injured, and rebuild |
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garyt1
Joined: Mar 12, 2011
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Feb 25, 2012 - 18:34 |
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Would certainly seem reasonable to retire the ag5 with -av as he is rather delicate for his cost. But I would agree that firing healthy players is a bit off.
With that high ag you should play high risk. Send the guys through tackle zones etc to take the ball whenever there is any chance. |
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Metalsvinet
Joined: Nov 03, 2006
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Feb 27, 2012 - 09:50 |
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I'd try to get a leap, wrestle, strip ball/tackle player preferably with AG+ as you currently lack any reliable ball blitzer. Then your AG6 should get dodge and block/wrestle and fire #10. |
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Carnis
Joined: Feb 03, 2009
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Feb 27, 2012 - 10:40 |
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| Quote: | | Who would you identify as the 3-5 key players on the team that deserve the apo? |
11 thileria Lineman 6 3 6 8 Guard, +AG, +AG
13 visalyar Catcher 8 3 5 7 Catch, Dodge, Block, +AG
8 sonir Lineman 6 3 4 8 Block, Guard, Dodge
(2 valithana Lineman 6 3 4 8 Dodge, Guard)
Good solid players with no extra bloat on them. #11 shall be a superb ball retriever one day and potential legend though guard ruins him a bit. #13 is your best potential scorer/oneturner with SS/Leap the other two are great allrounders any elf team would like to have. Don't apo #2 early in a game though, he is not that crucial.
| Quote: | | Who should I look to skill up next and what should they get? |
11 thileria Lineman 6 3 6 8 Guard, +AG, +AG
Dodge first, either block or surehands next.. He would live longer with block but be a better retriever with surehands, probably block is the better choice still.
Other than him, any non-injured players who dont yet have blodge. You want a dedicated blitzer with +mb/block too. Ideally one of your blitzers should die & reroll as a mb po guy  .
4 cabofin Lineman 6 3 5 7 +AG, Dodge, Wrestle -av
He could do with strip ball.. Then if he dies just let him go. Ag5 wrodge/strip is quite nice still.
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Who at this point is the most detrimental to team success? |
Seems your problem is TV.. Are you any good with low rerolls? Sack one reroll that's 50k. Fire #10 though it doesnt really help you that much as he has blodge. Anyway as its a R team I would try to survive with 12 players for the time being.
As for players to let go.. The blitzers are both great BUT very expensive. A similar catcher would be 150k those are 170k so that's another '40k bloat'. They get +AV for the 40k but its not a good deal in general, so if one of them should have an accident might not be a bad time to let go & try to reroll a blitzer with mb later.
Seems you play a running offence, do you really need a thrower at all then ? Sack him at some point & replace with a catcher?
Edit: These changes in total would cut tv in the long term by 110k (lineman nig/-Ag) + 40k (blitzer bloat) + 50k (reroll) or 200k which would put the team where it stands equal player/statwise imho.
| Quote: | | Do you see the potential for them to be a real threat in 3-5 games? |
Think they already are a threat.. 8 blodge and stats. They do miss the majorwinning statfreaks with +ag+st/leap though. |
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Ullakkomorko
Joined: Aug 10, 2008
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Feb 27, 2012 - 11:31 |
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These guys being uncompetitive (in your mind) has nothing to do with the current rule set. +AG and Guard are still amazing on elves and well worth the cost. |
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soranos
Joined: May 14, 2009
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Feb 28, 2012 - 13:36 |
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txs for the advice, guys. Especially Carnis as you do not often get a detailed feedback by the #1 rated coach.
I won't replace the blitzers right away, but I propally would not use the apo early on in a game. I am also hoping to give MB to one of them with their next skill-up. |
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