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Smeat



Joined: Nov 19, 2006

Post   Posted: Nov 16, 2014 - 01:00 Reply with quote Back to top

Team: https://fumbbl.com/p/team?op=view&team_id=783938 - 1 Blocker, a Wrestler* and a Wrodger - and that's it. And only 3 Gorillas atm (by starting roster design).

And that one Gorilla rolled an "11".

Now, before you kneejerk and rubberstamp "+stat all apez!", Gorillas have SA access - which means that he can get Dodge + Break Tackle on normals, better than Ag 3. (And Block is doubles, so he's ~unlikely~ to get both core defensive skills, no blodge.)

And "Extra Arms" gives +1 to Catch and Pickup (and Int), so he's doing that on a 3+ already.

So the only thing +Ag does is...
    o Without using BT, dodge on 3+ (this is the biggest selling point, imo, for multi-dodge blitzes. Remember that w/ BT, he dodges on a 2+.)
    o Ball handing on 2+ (like the majority of the team, nothing special there, but does get him scores faster, and a St 4 recovering a loose ball is always funny)
    o +20k TV over a "normal" skill
    o Delays "normal" skills (Dodge, MB, Guard, SS, whatever)
    o Makes him a REALLY big, no-block AV 8 target. :/

And I'm just not convinced that's a good thing at this point in the team, or any time soon (or at all w/ a Gorilla?). Confused


(* Note that Wrestler #2 rolled a "10" for her skill, and, despite the lack of core skills, I'm pro'ly going w/ +MA.)

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JimmyFantastic



Joined: Feb 06, 2007

Post   Posted: Nov 16, 2014 - 01:13 Reply with quote Back to top

Nope, skip.

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JackassRampant



Joined: Feb 26, 2011

Post   Posted: Nov 16, 2014 - 01:17 Reply with quote Back to top

Skip.

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yugzilla



Joined: Aug 02, 2013

Post   Posted: Nov 16, 2014 - 01:20 Reply with quote Back to top

I say its better for him to get a starting stat since the team lacks some core stats such as side step,dodge,guard,mighty blow etc and i think a team like simyin needs 1 or 2 core skills before a stat boost (unless its + strength).

i can see why + agility being useful as its can help with picking up the ball and dodging but then it becomes a player that you dont want to use to block the other team players. . it just depends on if you want to focus on bashing the opponent with the gorilla or teat him like a backup ball carrier.
Antithesisoftime



Joined: Aug 20, 2014

Post   Posted: Nov 16, 2014 - 01:36 Reply with quote Back to top

I don't think I could take a +ag on a Gorilla unless he had the other skills he needed first
pythrr



Joined: Mar 07, 2006

Post   Posted: Nov 16, 2014 - 01:57 Reply with quote Back to top

but how will you ever get a 4/4 gorilla star?

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jarvis_pants



Joined: Oct 30, 2008

Post   Posted: Nov 16, 2014 - 07:37
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For the wins? Skip it!
For the Lolz? +AG ALL APES

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T3mpano



Joined: Jul 17, 2014

Post   Posted: Nov 17, 2014 - 16:56 Reply with quote Back to top

Are you a man or an ape?

Take +AG!
m0gw41



Joined: Jun 12, 2012

Post   Posted: Nov 17, 2014 - 17:57 Reply with quote Back to top

If one of my gorillas gets +AG I'm taking it. He isn't your average ag2 s4 chump who can't handle a ball, sod the TV, take the AG and have some fun! You'll skill him up with dodge in no time (he'll be less of a target then) and he'll be ace if you roll a double.

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NickNutria



Joined: Jul 25, 2006

Post   Posted: Nov 17, 2014 - 18:00 Reply with quote Back to top

Take the +Ag, so you can score with him.
thewildchimp



Joined: Jan 23, 2013

Post   Posted: Nov 17, 2014 - 18:11 Reply with quote Back to top

I'll have to admit I haven't been playing them bananas, but if you plan to take B. Tackle on at least one of them, +AGI is way better. Works more than once and aids with ball-handling. Which is all nice and easy when the ball is in the clear but can be tricky if you must pry it out of 1 or 2 tackle zones. Or if it bounces around.

Tl;dr: +AGI! (maybe :p)
PurpleChest



Joined: Oct 25, 2003

Post   Posted: Nov 17, 2014 - 18:16
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Don't do it.

On any other player on the roster +ag would be priceless, on Gorillas it feels a mistake. BT will solve his movement issues. You say the dodging would be the best gain, but even then he will dodge as a human. that's not a compliment. And BT will make it a 2+ far cheaper in TV. So the AG is primarily a gain in ball handling, which is cool. But I am not sure you can spare a gorilla for that and there are other much more natural Ball Carriers.

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MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Nov 17, 2014 - 18:32 Reply with quote Back to top

Skip.
notbobby125



Joined: Feb 28, 2013

Post   Posted: Dec 08, 2014 - 07:06 Reply with quote Back to top

Gorillas don't have the movement speed to be doing multiple dodges in a single turn, so it will only rarely help out. Even in the extremely uncommon situation where you DO need to dodge twice with a Gorilla, dodge gives you a 75% chance of succeeding a 2 agility dodge.

They are also already reliable enough as picking up the ball as it is, you don't want your slowest player to be your main ball handler.
Roland



Joined: May 12, 2004

Post   Posted: Dec 08, 2014 - 08:41 Reply with quote Back to top

pythrr wrote:
but how will you ever get a 6/4 gorilla Legend?


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