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Which of block/wrestle is generally better on witch elves?
Block
33%
 33%  [ 13 ]
Wrestle
48%
 48%  [ 19 ]
I am a fence sitting Dwarf
17%
 17%  [ 7 ]
Total Votes : 39


Grod



Joined: Sep 30, 2003

Post   Posted: Apr 04, 2016 - 03:09 Reply with quote Back to top

I can see pros and cons both ways. What do you think?

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Antithesisoftime



Joined: Aug 20, 2014

Post   Posted: Apr 04, 2016 - 03:34 Reply with quote Back to top

Depends on her role on your team.
Surfers want Block (though Juggs are better for this)
Hitters want Block
Sackers want Wrestle
ph0enyx13



Joined: Nov 14, 2015

Post   Posted: Apr 04, 2016 - 03:35 Reply with quote Back to top

Depends on their job/what other skills. I wouldn't want a 4 strength or 5 agility witch on the ground with her av7. Block also works better with mighty blow. I would take wrestle on a sacker Witch. Wrestle, strip ball, tackle, leap. But I'd figure she would get fouled to death.
Matthueycamo



Joined: May 16, 2014

Post   Posted: Apr 04, 2016 - 03:35 Reply with quote Back to top

I don't know if it is better but I find wrestle more annoying as a fence sitting dwarf with one leg slightly more over one side than the other.

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ph0enyx13



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Post   Posted: Apr 04, 2016 - 03:38 Reply with quote Back to top

Wrestle and fend are fun because they make dorfs cry Very Happy
Grod



Joined: Sep 30, 2003

Post   Posted: Apr 04, 2016 - 04:30 Reply with quote Back to top

Wrestle seems to complement jump up ... But so does diving tackle, but not all 3 together. Also if a non block player hits a witch and rolls both down, av7 would make me reluctant even with a turnover...

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licker



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Post   Posted: Apr 04, 2016 - 05:11 Reply with quote Back to top

Wrestle on a juggs is better.

Block as a 1st skill on a newish team is better.

You can play with 2, so just make one of each and use whichever makes more sense Smile
Matthueycamo



Joined: May 16, 2014

Post   Posted: Apr 04, 2016 - 05:45 Reply with quote Back to top

I'm not so sure. DT plus W means they block or blitz and you have wrestle they dodge you have DT. I think they really compliment each other in the role, yes one can only be used at once but they are for different actions, they don't overlap when they are actually effective. The question is do witch elves have a better six skill development plan than having both? Having not played delfs much at all I don't really know, but in theory to me having both makes the player more versatile and harder to get away from without a turnover.

As for AV7, sometimes you have to risk it for the biscuit. A lino with said skills would obviously be safer but if you want a witch to do the role it seems a valid idea.

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Post   Posted: Apr 04, 2016 - 05:48 Reply with quote Back to top

I'm not sure it's worth planning a 6 skill Witch Elf. 5, sure. 6, if you get there, then it's just gravy.
ph0enyx13



Joined: Nov 14, 2015

Post   Posted: Apr 04, 2016 - 05:59 Reply with quote Back to top

The only 3 A skills worth taking that she doesn't start with are side step, leap, and diving tackle. For G access there is Block/wrestle, Tackle, Strip ball and then kinda eh skills like sure hands, dauntless, fend, and pro.
ArthurWynne



Joined: Sep 23, 2015

Post   Posted: Apr 04, 2016 - 12:07 Reply with quote Back to top

As long as I roll normals, I take Block on my first Witch Elf, and Wrestle on the second one if I run two.

If I roll a double as first skill, I take Juggernaut and then Wrestle. If I roll a stat first, I then take Block. (Unless it's AG and I already have an AG 5 on the team, in which case I build a leaping sacker with Wrestle.)
Seany18



Joined: Mar 12, 2016

Post   Posted: Apr 08, 2016 - 16:48 Reply with quote Back to top

licker wrote:
Wrestle on a juggs is better.


Funny you say this in bb2 there is this great feature where if you have wrestle and juggs and you choose not to use juggs then your opponent blocks you down.
licker



Joined: Jul 10, 2009

Post   Posted: Apr 08, 2016 - 16:57 Reply with quote Back to top

Seany18 wrote:
licker wrote:
Wrestle on a juggs is better.


Funny you say this in bb2 there is this great feature where if you have wrestle and juggs and you choose not to use juggs then your opponent blocks you down.


lol...

Well it's better when it's properly implemented then Smile
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