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The New Rulz are:
Exactly what I wanted and predicted
17%
 17%  [ 14 ]
A sign the GW is getting the Blood out of BB
13%
 13%  [ 11 ]
A bit better than a piece of pie
28%
 28%  [ 23 ]
The final nail in the coffin of my hopes in humanity
19%
 19%  [ 16 ]
Par for the course
20%
 20%  [ 17 ]
Total Votes : 81


thoralf



Joined: Mar 06, 2008

Post   Posted: Nov 29, 2016 - 01:39 Reply with quote Back to top

Balle2000 wrote:
Do CAS caused by fouls add to the post-season buy back budget?


Good question.

Goblins' should.

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Balle2000



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Post   Posted: Nov 29, 2016 - 02:02 Reply with quote Back to top

thoralf wrote:
Balle2000 wrote:
Do CAS caused by fouls add to the post-season buy back budget?

Good question.

I thought the point of this thread was you answering them? Evil or Very Mad
thoralf



Joined: Mar 06, 2008

Post   Posted: Nov 29, 2016 - 02:41 Reply with quote Back to top

Balle2000 wrote:

I thought the point of this thread was you answering them? :evil:


The point was to SPOT ALL THE RULZ!

All I can do is to read the rulz to you. Here's the relevant bit:

Quote:
- 10,000 gp for each match the team played last seasons (both friendlies and competition games).
- 5,000 gp for each touchdown the team scored last season.
- 5,000 gp for each casualty the team caused last season.


I'm neither GW nor the Big C, so I can't offer you any authoritative interpretation on this.

If I find anything in the rulz on what it is for a team to cause a casualty, I'll clarify it.

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Meanwhile, here's an interesting tidbit under Play-Offs (DZ1, p. 16):

Quote:
The play-offs take place during the Season's End period, and are made up of two stages: semi-finals and finals. [...]

Finals and semi-finals cannot be drawn [...] Also, outside help is strictly forbidden during the finals and semi-finals, so teams cannot enlist the services of Star Players or Mercenaries during inducement.

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Matthueycamo



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Post   Posted: Nov 29, 2016 - 02:51 Reply with quote Back to top

If it says casualty the team caused I would say that wording includes fouls. Crowdsurf CAS are caused by the crowd thus I don't think should be counted as caused by the team. Trips from dodges etc are perhaps a grey area in that I could see arguments for both sides.

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Balle2000



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Post   Posted: Nov 29, 2016 - 02:55 Reply with quote Back to top

Matthueycamo wrote:
If it says casualty the team caused I would say that wording includes fouls. Crowdsurf CAS are caused by the crowd thus I don't think should be counted as caused by the team. Trips from dodges etc are perhaps a grey area in that I could see arguments for both sides.

That's the thing though. We are all more or less capable of doing the assumptions, that's why I asked for clarity (doesn't exist yet).

As Fumbbl works now Cas caused by blocks, blitzes and fouls count as Cas+.
Traul



Joined: Jun 09, 2013

Post   Posted: Nov 29, 2016 - 02:57 Reply with quote Back to top

garyt1 wrote:
Most will not keep a fun but inefficient/expensive player if there is a penalty.

There is no penalty in-game (i.e.: they do not cost more TV), they are just more expensive to keep at the season end, so coaches can keep their stars as long as they can afford them.
misterlonestar



Joined: Oct 02, 2015

Post   Posted: Nov 29, 2016 - 03:40 Reply with quote Back to top

Balle2000 wrote:

As Fumbbl works now Cas caused by blocks, blitzes and fouls count as Cas+.


I may be mistaken but Cas caused by Stabs are not counted as is and should be in my opinion.
Matthueycamo



Joined: May 16, 2014

Post   Posted: Nov 29, 2016 - 03:41 Reply with quote Back to top

Balle2000 wrote:
Matthueycamo wrote:
If it says casualty the team caused I would say that wording includes fouls. Crowdsurf CAS are caused by the crowd thus I don't think should be counted as caused by the team. Trips from dodges etc are perhaps a grey area in that I could see arguments for both sides.

That's the thing though. We are all more or less capable of doing the assumptions, that's why I asked for clarity (doesn't exist yet).

As Fumbbl works now Cas caused by blocks, blitzes and fouls count as Cas+.


Knowing GW they probably don't know themselves seeing as the don't write rules to be 100% crystal clear on purpose.

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thoralf



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Post   Posted: Nov 29, 2016 - 03:55 Reply with quote Back to top

Recurring concessions could wreck up a team's downtime if you get below your average number of CAS and TDs.

Killing sprees could increase with the incentive to have CAS and TDs for re-hiring.

Both phenomena could feed one another.

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pythrr



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Post   Posted: Nov 29, 2016 - 04:13 Reply with quote Back to top

mrt1212 wrote:
pythrr wrote:
mrt1212 wrote:
Balle2000 wrote:
Do CAS caused by fouls add to the post-season buy back budget?


Yes.

5,000 gp for each casualty the team caused last season.

The real rules lawyering comes in form of Diving Tackle - does causing a CAS through using Diving Tackle constitute a CAS you caused or is it only CAS that you rolled Dice for in your turn?


wot about crowd pushes?


Thank you pythrr, I knew I could count on you to bring up the other rules lawyer thing.


wot about WIZZARD rips?

wot about ROCKS?

curious minds need to know!

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mrt1212



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Post   Posted: Nov 29, 2016 - 04:17 Reply with quote Back to top

pythrr wrote:
mrt1212 wrote:
pythrr wrote:
mrt1212 wrote:
Balle2000 wrote:
Do CAS caused by fouls add to the post-season buy back budget?


Yes.

5,000 gp for each casualty the team caused last season.

The real rules lawyering comes in form of Diving Tackle - does causing a CAS through using Diving Tackle constitute a CAS you caused or is it only CAS that you rolled Dice for in your turn?


wot about crowd pushes?


Thank you pythrr, I knew I could count on you to bring up the other rules lawyer thing.


wot about WIZZARD rips?

wot about ROCKS?

curious minds need to know!


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licker



Joined: Jul 10, 2009

Post   Posted: Nov 29, 2016 - 04:23 Reply with quote Back to top

Matthueycamo wrote:
Balle2000 wrote:
Matthueycamo wrote:
If it says casualty the team caused I would say that wording includes fouls. Crowdsurf CAS are caused by the crowd thus I don't think should be counted as caused by the team. Trips from dodges etc are perhaps a grey area in that I could see arguments for both sides.

That's the thing though. We are all more or less capable of doing the assumptions, that's why I asked for clarity (doesn't exist yet).

As Fumbbl works now Cas caused by blocks, blitzes and fouls count as Cas+.


Knowing GW they probably don't know themselves seeing as the don't write rules to be 100% crystal clear on purpose.


I don't think it's on purpose, I think it's accidental.

Which is the kind way of saying they don't know what the @#$# they are doing.
MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Nov 29, 2016 - 04:55 Reply with quote Back to top

I guess only the Casualties giving SPPs should be considered, i.e. those inflicted by blocks and blitzes, unless the new ruleset changed that.
mrt1212



Joined: Feb 26, 2013

Post   Posted: Nov 29, 2016 - 05:21 Reply with quote Back to top

MattDakka wrote:
I guess only the Casualties giving SPPs should be considered, i.e. those inflicted by blocks and blitzes, unless the new ruleset changed that.


Why would you guess that?
thoralf



Joined: Mar 06, 2008

Post   Posted: Nov 29, 2016 - 05:53 Reply with quote Back to top

Y U NO GIVE GPS FOR WINS, GW?

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