awambawamb
Joined: Feb 17, 2008
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Aug 13, 2020 - 12:07 |
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Grod wrote: | So, is fumblerooskie going to be secretly an awesome skill?
Reason - the 1 skill that might let teams stall easily without "Wasting time"... |
this.
I'm sure I'll need an extra dose of ibuprofen with the new rules and all the tables to look at... |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Aug 13, 2020 - 15:54 |
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It's a plan to even the different skill levels amongst coaches:
old coaches used to this ruleset will struggle to learn and adapt to the new rules, young coaches will learn them and beat us old timers! |
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Zlefin
Joined: Apr 14, 2005
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Aug 13, 2020 - 16:26 |
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Has the official unveiling of the new rules happened? if not, when is it slated or estimated to happen? |
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Balle2000
Joined: Sep 25, 2008
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Aug 13, 2020 - 16:46 |
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Zlefin wrote: | when is it slated or estimated to happen? |
Around Christmas. |
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PaddyMick
Joined: Jan 03, 2012
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Aug 13, 2020 - 17:26 |
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I'm very excited but it kinda takes some fun out of playing in the meantime, knowing it's all gonna change soon. it can't have been a deliberate leak, especially if GW have new releases before then. |
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spubbbba
Joined: Jul 31, 2006
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Aug 13, 2020 - 20:11 |
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I've heard that the number of stars has been cut down to 23 or maybe 24. Does anyone have a list?
I assume it includes all those from Forgeworld under BB16 and it looks like Bugman as well as the Black Gobbo and White Dwarf are added too. |
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ulvardar234
Joined: Dec 29, 2012
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Aug 13, 2020 - 20:44 |
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Yeah, and Grak & Crumbleberry.
People guesses there will be a "Starplayers" or "Death Zone" book, so don't worry... all your hard work from these years won't be lost |
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Prez
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Aug 13, 2020 - 20:51 |
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A lot of folks talking in depth about the new rules and skills etc. Other than the leaked rule book, with hard to read text in places, is there anywhere else now come to light, where can I find these to peruse at leisure.
Many thanks in advance |
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Balle2000
Joined: Sep 25, 2008
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Aug 13, 2020 - 20:57 |
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spubbbba wrote: | I've heard that the number of stars has been cut down to 23 or maybe 24. Does anyone have a list? |
A total of 23-24 stars, yes.
In one book.
But when did GW ever release just one book? |
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garyt1
Joined: Mar 12, 2011
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Aug 13, 2020 - 22:35 |
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Yeah, 5 or more teams and several star players will be part of the temptation for Death Zone or whatever the extra book will be several months down the line. Along with points like special play cards and wizards if they aren't in already. |
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krazeeEyezKilla
Joined: Jun 20, 2017
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Aug 17, 2020 - 21:56 |
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Question about new random skill-ups: will it be possible to decline a skill? In extreme cases, I could see wanting to decline a random skill even if I have to incur the 10k TV hit (e.g. Frenzy). |
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ClayInfinity
Joined: Aug 15, 2003
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Aug 18, 2020 - 08:43 |
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krazeeEyezKilla wrote: | Question about new random skill-ups: will it be possible to decline a skill? In extreme cases, I could see wanting to decline a random skill even if I have to incur the 10k TV hit (e.g. Frenzy). |
I very much doubt it... once you spend the spp's, I think you get what you get and you need to play with the skill or retire the player... |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Aug 18, 2020 - 09:40 |
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ClayInfinity wrote: | krazeeEyezKilla wrote: | Question about new random skill-ups: will it be possible to decline a skill? In extreme cases, I could see wanting to decline a random skill even if I have to incur the 10k TV hit (e.g. Frenzy). |
I very much doubt it... once you spend the spp's, I think you get what you get and you need to play with the skill or retire the player... |
Correct. You have to take it once committed to a random roll. |
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Sp00keh
Joined: Dec 06, 2011
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Aug 18, 2020 - 11:28 |
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If you count the pairs as 1, it's 23 star player options
Note even the existing ones have changed somewhat. All stars now have unique rules eg 'once per game' abilities
* The Black Gobbo
Deeproot Strongbranch
Edril Sidewinder
Glart Smashrip
Gloriel Summerbloom
* Grak & Crumbleberry
Gretchen Wächer "The Bloodbowl Widow"
Griff Oberwald
Grim Ironjaw
Hakflem Skuttlespike
Helmut Wulf
Karla Von Kill
Lord Borak the Despoiler
Mighty Zug
Morg 'n' Thorg
Roxanna Darknail
Rumbelow Sheepskin
Skrull Halfheight
Lucien Swift & Valen Swift
Varag Ghoul-Chewer
* Grombrindal, the White Dwarf
Willow Rosebark
Zolcath the Zoat
* New, or they're not in this list https://fumbbl.com/help:Full+list |
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uzkulak
Joined: Mar 30, 2004
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Aug 18, 2020 - 14:40 |
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Everyone with str3 is also buffed if Im understanding this right?
I think this is the point isnt it? the new rules change the way the skills are used, shutting down some (previously common) options but opening up a lot others. Especially as you can now pick doubles.
How does a human or orc blitzer with BT look for example, especially now you can pick dodge intentionally? Maybe throw in a +ma and that's a tasty looking player.
People will adapt very fast to the new environment but just need to start to think in a different way. Out with the old, in with the new!
Any old school players will remember changes to ie stand firm or diving tackle that massively changed the way those skills were used. This is just the same.
Sp00keh wrote: | Players for whom Break Tackle is the same as currently, meaning they still dodge on a 2+:
Ogre, Minotaur, Rat Ogre ST5, Ag4+
Chaos Chosen Blockers, ST4, Ag3+
Nerfed, these all now dodge on a 3+ with Break Tackle:
Death Roller st7 ag5+
Treeman st6 ag5+
Troll, Rotspawn, Kroxigor, Mummy, Yhetee*, Tomb Guardian* St5 Ag5+
Flesh Golem, Big Orc Blocker, Black Orc, Nurgle Bloater, Bull Centaur* Ulfwerener* ST4 ag4+
Extra nerfed:
Saurus So Sad, ST4 Ag5+, now dodge on a 4+ with Break Tackle
Buffed:
Vampires*! They'd be ST4 ag2+ so would dodge on 1+ with Break Tackle
* Currently deleted
Anyone who is ST3 ST4 and has Strength access (but not Mutations access because Two Heads is better), can take BT for a +1 to dodge
Maybe on a Dwarf Runner, so he dodges on a 2+? It's expensive tho, 40k TV cost |
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