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Will bb2020 changes make you retire from fumbbl?
Never, fumbbl 4eva!
75%
 75%  [ 275 ]
Completely retire
1%
 1%  [ 6 ]
Retire except still do league
8%
 8%  [ 30 ]
Retire except still do some tournaments
0%
 0%  [ 2 ]
Undecided
14%
 14%  [ 52 ]
Total Votes : 365


MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Jan 20, 2021 - 01:01 Reply with quote Back to top

extremegrazedknee wrote:
Team building leads to conscious or subconscious cherry picking. Making it harder fro me to do that is a good thing.

If your concern was conscious or subconscious cherry picking, Black Box was the solution.
There was no need to wait for BB2020, which, unlike Box, will kill team building, not just make it harder.
mrt1212



Joined: Feb 26, 2013

Post   Posted: Jan 20, 2021 - 07:34 Reply with quote Back to top

Arktoris wrote:
I'm going to give it a try, but can't promise anything. Good news is, they plan on doing rule reviews every 6 months. Perhaps they'll get it right by 2022.


Perhaps that means Christer will do the same with the daft rebuy value. Laughing
koadah



Joined: Mar 30, 2005

Post   Posted: Jan 20, 2021 - 10:06 Reply with quote Back to top

mrt1212 wrote:
Arktoris wrote:
I'm going to give it a try, but can't promise anything. Good news is, they plan on doing rule reviews every 6 months. Perhaps they'll get it right by 2022.


Perhaps that means Christer will do the same with the daft rebuy value. Laughing


Until then you can play Secret League! Mr. Green

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doclystria



Joined: Sep 22, 2011

Post   Posted: Jan 20, 2021 - 13:22 Reply with quote Back to top

A wiser man than me said in a podcast: Thats part of the rules now. It cant be avoided, like Boris Johnson as Prime Minister.

I am a player. I will play on... (Take it and make the best of it)
Lyracian



Joined: Oct 29, 2015

Post   Posted: Jan 20, 2021 - 13:53 Reply with quote Back to top

koadah wrote:

Until then you can play Secret League! Mr. Green

Not going to be that Secret if you keep telling people!
MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Jan 20, 2021 - 14:14 Reply with quote Back to top

It should be called Spam League.
koadah



Joined: Mar 30, 2005

Post   Posted: Jan 20, 2021 - 15:12 Reply with quote Back to top

Lyracian wrote:

Not going to be that Secret if you keep telling people!


It's as Secret as it needs to be. Wink

MattDakka wrote:
It should be called Spam League.


Thanks Matt.

By responding, you're helping to spread the word. Mr. Green

The seasons will be more generous than the "Competitive" division.

The O[L]C will have no seasons at all.

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stowelly



Joined: Mar 16, 2017

Post   Posted: Jan 21, 2021 - 09:25 Reply with quote Back to top

MattDakka wrote:
It should be called Spam League.
it's probably less spam than say, making a blog post every time a player gains some spp though
mekutata



Joined: May 03, 2015

Post   Posted: Jan 21, 2021 - 10:10 Reply with quote Back to top

With the new ruleset incoming, will there be more or less legends?

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ramchop



Joined: Oct 12, 2013

Post   Posted: Jan 21, 2021 - 10:18
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mekutata wrote:
With the new ruleset incoming, will there be more or less legends?


Less. Random mvps, seasons budget, retention costs.
ClayInfinity



Joined: Aug 15, 2003

Post   Posted: Jan 21, 2021 - 10:48 Reply with quote Back to top

ramchop wrote:
mekutata wrote:
With the new ruleset incoming, will there be more or less legends?


Less. Random mvps, seasons budget, retention costs.


Yes, but less SPP required to get to Legend, especially if full random.

Could be some very funnily skilled "legends" out there soon! haha
stej



Joined: Jan 05, 2009

Post   Posted: Jan 21, 2021 - 11:31 Reply with quote Back to top

Does this favour those who can play more games? If you go full random, and play enough games, you could end up with a very tasty player early on
MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Jan 21, 2021 - 12:07 Reply with quote Back to top

The fact is, after 15 games you are "encouraged" by Season Redraft to fire the skilled players, so even if you play 15 games per day, you will have to retire some.
A Legend with all random skills doesn't look like a player you would keep for the next Season.
stej



Joined: Jan 05, 2009

Post   Posted: Jan 21, 2021 - 13:57 Reply with quote Back to top

But if the random skills you got were the skills you wanted (because you played lots of games and recycled players until you got a good one). You would keep them a few seasons as they would be tv efficient vs chosen skills?
Lots of ifs and unlikely fringe cases there
Nelphine



Joined: Apr 01, 2011

Post   Posted: Jan 21, 2021 - 14:14 Reply with quote Back to top

yeah, assuming you want skills from at least 2 different trees (and usually i'd guess its 3 for a legend), honestly you'd need to play thousands of games to get even close to perfect random legends. which isn't realistic even for a player like BillBrasky, let alone the rest of us
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