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Jopotzuki



Joined: Oct 07, 2011

Post   Posted: Apr 28, 2021 - 19:50 Reply with quote Back to top

In bb2020, can you use pro or a team reroll to reroll the 4+ dice when seeing if the bomb hits the oppositions players? Team reroll does not forbid you, neither does pro.

Team reroll is just when you are the active team and it spesifically what it can't be used on and the bomb 4+ is not one of them.

Also pro needs to be used during a players activation. When does a players activation end? Does it end immediately after the bomb has left their hands or does it end when you activate another player?

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cromag



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Post   Posted: Apr 29, 2021 - 02:01 Reply with quote Back to top

Agreed.

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C0ddlefish



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Post   Posted: Apr 29, 2021 - 07:27 Reply with quote Back to top

Presumably this is an oversight in the rules but technically you might be right.

My understanding is Rerolls/pro are meant to represent that fact you've trained the team to be better, hence have the chance to 'correct an error they've made in the game'.

So in my mind, rerolling the throw to be more likely to end up where you wanted it to go is fine, but rerolling the bomb itself because 'it didn't explode well enough' or 'the opponent shielded himself from the blast' makes no sense
awambawamb



Joined: Feb 17, 2008

Post   Posted: Apr 29, 2021 - 09:45 Reply with quote Back to top

that wouldn't make much sense, but I foresee the powerplayers arguing to get advantage of it :/

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Dan-Da-Man



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Post   Posted: Apr 29, 2021 - 11:46 Reply with quote Back to top

short answer to OP is no and why should you reroll the blast? its not part of the TEAm as in TEAM reroll.

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Shushnik



Joined: Feb 27, 2006

Post   Posted: Apr 29, 2021 - 14:29 Reply with quote Back to top

The old rules stated team rerolls could only be used by a player performing an action, leaving room for the interpretation that a bomb exploding is not a player acting.

The new rewrite does not impose this limitation. One of the many nuances lost in this edition.

That's why a coach may think they can reroll it. Because the rules no longer prohibit the reroll.
Shushnik



Joined: Feb 27, 2006

Post   Posted: Apr 29, 2021 - 15:34 Reply with quote Back to top

Ugh. After thinking about the consequences of this difference and checking the reroll rules, I can find nothing that prohibits rerolling a crowd throw-in. It isn't a deviate, scatter, bounce, armor, injury, or casualty roll and it happens during a player's turn.

I do not like that at all.
Shushnik



Joined: Feb 27, 2006

Post   Posted: Apr 29, 2021 - 15:51 Reply with quote Back to top

As to the final question of when a player's activation ends, bombs use the passing rules. Which means the activation ends after the pass has been resolved.

Which also means if you give them running pass, their activation doesn't end at that point. Which would be pretty useful.
Jopotzuki



Joined: Oct 07, 2011

Post   Posted: Apr 29, 2021 - 19:47 Reply with quote Back to top

Dan-Da-Man wrote:
short answer to OP is no and why should you reroll the blast? its not part of the TEAm as in TEAM reroll.


Don't confuse the name of the rule with what the rule is actually doing. A team reroll can be used during a team's turn and bomb happens on your turn when you throw it.

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