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JanMattys



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Post   Posted: Sep 27, 2022 - 17:35 Reply with quote Back to top

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/09/27/speed-savagery-and-slipperiness-the-amazons-return-to-the-blood-bowl/

Here they are

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Kinks



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Post   Posted: Sep 27, 2022 - 17:39 Reply with quote Back to top

Well the blitzers don't have block. I know a few people said they would get ST 4 blockers, but I'm a little surprised they went for it. What do people think?

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kozak



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Post   Posted: Sep 27, 2022 - 17:46 Reply with quote Back to top

This is a bizarre roster. No blocks, two str 4 players, no more catchers but good throwers.

Hit an Run seems not too OP, it gives a free movement after a block action but you cannot stand against another opponent or be based.
mister__joshua



Joined: Jun 20, 2007

Post   Posted: Sep 27, 2022 - 17:47
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I’d like to try hit and run, it could potentially be quite strong.

I think they lose out initially by having no block, but are probably better off long term with ma7 and str4 on the roster. At least they’re more interesting than their last incarnation.

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Sp00keh



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Post   Posted: Sep 27, 2022 - 17:48 Reply with quote Back to top

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Sp00keh



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Post   Posted: Sep 27, 2022 - 17:49 Reply with quote Back to top

They've got various stat boosts, now have players with +MV, +STR, and +AV

They have got more expensive tho
amazingprizzini



Joined: Dec 08, 2009

Post   Posted: Sep 27, 2022 - 17:52 Reply with quote Back to top

huh. it's a different squad without 4 (or any blodgers) out of the box. It's a lot less cookie cutter, and I think it'll be more fun to play and play against.

I don't know how effective they'll be, especially at lower tv levels without any block, but I think it's a good change for them.
amazingprizzini



Joined: Dec 08, 2009

Post   Posted: Sep 27, 2022 - 18:14 Reply with quote Back to top

Sp00keh wrote:
They've got various stat boosts, now have players with +MV, +STR, and +AV

They have got more expensive tho


you can still get a squads of 12 with 2 bliters, 2 blockers, 1 thrower, 7 linewoman, and 3 re-rolls. (or skips a linewoman and buy an apoth.)

I think it's a pretty good starting roster, even without block?
Sp00keh



Joined: Dec 06, 2011

Post   Posted: Sep 27, 2022 - 18:40 Reply with quote Back to top

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Kinks



Joined: Feb 28, 2007

Post   Posted: Sep 27, 2022 - 18:41 Reply with quote Back to top

So do the Piranha Warrior Blitzers have Agility access, Strength access or both?

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Sp00keh



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Post   Posted: Sep 27, 2022 - 19:00 Reply with quote Back to top

No word on access yet
Sp00keh



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Post   Posted: Sep 27, 2022 - 19:01 Reply with quote Back to top

Hit n Run is an extra free square of movement? so on top of their MV7?
If its an extra free square, it means they're MV8 on the blitz.. ? that's massive

So they could get +MV +MV = MV9, and then Hit n Run + Rush + Rush + Sprint = natural one turner?

It also pairs well with Frenzy, means they're not likely to get counter-surfed, and gives them more reach to avoid needing Rushes
Seventyone



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Post   Posted: Sep 27, 2022 - 19:23 Reply with quote Back to top

Would hit and run work on a blitz? I thought gee dubs decided they were different things

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Java



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Post   Posted: Sep 27, 2022 - 19:59 Reply with quote Back to top

potentially, yes, as it does not specify that the block has too be on its own and not part of a blitz action (cfr. juggs/brawler)

you would need to start the turn on scrimmage, blitz diagonally one opponent also on scrimmage, follow up and be able to "hit and run" away from them and 1 square ahead respecting all the caveats from the trait, that would leave you with 8 squares of movement plus 3 GFIs if sprint is present

if the opponent has backlined, that normally leaves you with a 5+, a 4+ and a 3+ dodge, excluding all the ball handling rolls up to the 4+ (or worse) catch roll

theorethically doable, and probably more exciting/interesting than the old style MA10 sprint gutter runner

probably near-impossible if the opponent has not backlined

but then again, you could blitz any other piece not on scrimmage if there's a chance of doing that trick against THEM


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amazingprizzini



Joined: Dec 08, 2009

Post   Posted: Sep 27, 2022 - 20:00 Reply with quote Back to top

I suspect it only works on a block, rather than a blitz. You can alread do this on a blitz (if you have a movement point left).

That player is a pretty cool new addition, and a lot more fun that the old catchers. The big difference is the replacement for the old 0-4 blitzers.

Zons will work differently know with the str. 4 blockers, who can quickly become strength 4 blodgers, which is great. There isn't another str. 4 dodger out of the box, is there?
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