awambawamb
Joined: Feb 17, 2008
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May 28, 2024 - 20:55 |
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just to understand, I thought that Claw doesn't stack anymore with MB:
Hypermania blitzes Tomtobol:
Re-Rolled Block Dice [ POW ]
Hypermania re-rolled 1 block die using Pro.
Block Roll [ PUSHBACK ] [ POW ]
Block Result [ POW ]
Armour Roll [ 6 ][ 2 ]
Rolled Total of 8
Hypermania uses Claws to reduce opponent's armour to 8+.
The armour of Tomtobol has been broken.
Injury Roll [ 1 ][ 6 ]
Rolled Total of 7 + 1 Mighty Blow = 8
Tomtobol has been knocked out.
it seems just different to me |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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May 28, 2024 - 20:59 |
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Claws: a roll of 8+ before applying any modifier will break armour regardless of the actual armor value.
Mighty Blow doesn't stack with Claws to break the AV, but it can be used for the Injury roll. |
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awambawamb
Joined: Feb 17, 2008
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May 28, 2024 - 21:13 |
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clear, thanks |
_________________ "la virtù sta nel cielo e nella terra, ma anche nelle nuvole e nelle stelle"
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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May 28, 2024 - 21:24 |
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Carthage
Joined: Mar 18, 2021
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May 28, 2024 - 21:52 |
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Hm, this makes me wonder. If you have a chainsaw with 10 armor, and you hit it with a claw player, are they effectively AV8+, AV7+ or AV5+?
My bet is 7+ given a question I had about mighty blowing saw players, I'd expect claw to be similar. |
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Nelphine
Joined: Apr 01, 2011
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May 28, 2024 - 23:05 |
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chainsaw doesn't stack with anything (and you must use chainsaw), so you can't use claw (or mighty blow) against a chainsaw player |
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Sp00keh
Joined: Dec 06, 2011
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May 29, 2024 - 10:58 |
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Nelphine wrote: | chainsaw doesn't stack with anything |
Correct
Nelphine wrote: | you can't use claw (or mighty blow) against a chainsaw player |
I assume you mean 'with' instead of 'against', because you very much can mightyblow them |
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Carthage
Joined: Mar 18, 2021
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May 29, 2024 - 21:39 |
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Sp00keh wrote: | Nelphine wrote: | chainsaw doesn't stack with anything |
Correct
Nelphine wrote: | you can't use claw (or mighty blow) against a chainsaw player |
I assume you mean 'with' instead of 'against', because you very much can mightyblow them |
You actually can't! That was what led me to learning that. I hit a goblin saw with an 11 AV check, then rolled a 7 on the injury expecting a +1 to make it a badly hurt.
Shockingly, it was just a KO. Apparently in the book it actually explicitly says you can't use the mighty blow for the injury. I have a help ticket in the discord about it because I thought it was a bug back in November. If you search "mighty" in the staff-help channel, it's that one. |
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Carthage
Joined: Mar 18, 2021
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May 29, 2024 - 21:41 |
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Nelphine wrote: | chainsaw doesn't stack with anything (and you must use chainsaw), so you can't use claw (or mighty blow) against a chainsaw player |
Yup so 7+. Wasn't sure since claw isn't doing a modifier like mighty blow or chainsaw does, it just moves the armor down to 8+ if that was functionally different.
Like previous editions you applied the claw prior to applying the mighty blow, you could interpret this the same order. But I'm 100% sure you are right that the chainsaw precludes the claw. |
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