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Catalyst32



Joined: Jul 14, 2008

Post   Posted: Mar 27, 2023 - 07:14 Reply with quote Back to top

The title says it.
I am wondering what you think the BEST BUILD IS for the 4 Gutters on a Skaven Team OR for 4 Catchers on a Humans Team

What is the best you have done or the best you have seen?
Carthage



Joined: Mar 18, 2021

Post   Posted: Mar 27, 2023 - 08:01 Reply with quote Back to top

Gutter runner? +ST, Horns, +AG, 2 Heads, Wrestle, Tackle Smile

In all seriousness. I'm a big believer in making 1 rat into a blodge runner (eventually EA or Big Hand) then just sit on stat ups, and the other 3 into sacker/harassers with wrestle, sidestep, dauntless, tackle, diving tackle in that order
MerryZ



Joined: Nov 28, 2005

Post   Posted: Mar 27, 2023 - 08:30 Reply with quote Back to top

Im puzzled, are you asking how to skill them or what start to get on 1mil ?

Also why would you ever get 4 catchers for humans ?

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Fabrizio



Joined: May 28, 2004

Post   Posted: Mar 27, 2023 - 08:54 Reply with quote Back to top

Not something that I would necessarily aim for anymore, especially with some rule changes in the new edition, but I once (CRP times) had the following 4 gutter runners at the same time and boy was it fun.

The oneturner:
+AG, +MA, Block, Sprint, Side Step, Leap

The annoying one:
Block, Side Step, Diving Tackle, +AG, Tackle

The sacker:
Wrestle, Strip Ball, Dauntless, Leap, Tackle

The "if the ball is loose it is not safe":
Big Hand, Block, Sure Hands, +AG, Leap, Side Step

The last two in particular did some magic plays in combination.
spelledaren



Joined: Mar 06, 2004

Post   Posted: Mar 27, 2023 - 10:38 Reply with quote Back to top

I got one with Horns, Block, Side Step, Strip ball. This was awesome.

The second one gets Dauntless, Wrestle, Tackle.

Consider one with 2 heads, big hand and something.

A 4th gets sure feet/sprint/side step I guess.

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MerryZ



Joined: Nov 28, 2005

Post   Posted: Mar 27, 2023 - 10:48 Reply with quote Back to top

best catcher for humans and gutter for rats is SG/DP. Cheap and wins games

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Catalyst32



Joined: Jul 14, 2008

Post   Posted: Mar 27, 2023 - 11:38 Reply with quote Back to top

MerryZ wrote:
Im puzzled, are you asking how to skill them or what start to get on 1mil ?

Also why would you ever get 4 catchers for humans ?


I have seen some 4 Catcher Humans teams in my day and they can be AMAZING. Tougher and Harder hitting than Skaven, almost as Fast and Deadly Efficient at scoring quickly and playing excellent defense
MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Mar 27, 2023 - 12:10 Reply with quote Back to top

Gutter Runner one turner: Block, Side Step, Sprint, Two Heads, Break Tackle/+AG, Sure Feet.
An alternative could be a Gutter Runner like this: Block, Side Step, Leap, Very Long Legs/+AG, Sprint, Sure Feet/Two Heads.
The other 3 Gutter Runners: Wrestle/Block, Dauntless (or Horns), Side Step, Tackle, Two Heads, +AG/Break Tackle. I'd build at least 2 with Wrackle to sack ball carriers.
If you like, a Sneaky Git, Dirty Player Gutter Runner.

About Human Catchers: I would use just 1 Catcher, built like so:
Block, Side Step, +MA, Sprint, +AG/Break Tackle, Sure Feet.

If you really want to play with 4, the other 3 could be: Block/Wrestle, Dauntless, Side Step.
If you like, a Dirty Player, Sneaky Git Catcher.
Realistically speaking it's harder to develop 4 Catchers (due to random MVP), so, I'd just try to build a one turner Catcher because 1TTD has the biggest game impact.

On my Wood Elf team I use 4 Catchers, but they have AG 4, which is way more reliable to dodge, and once they have Block/Wrestle they are harder to knock down and faster than Linemen.

That said, I think that the "best build" boils down to Season length and personal gameplay. There are many possible best builds, and they are related to the way you like to play your team.
If you like to foul a lot, Dirty Player and Sneaky Git is the best build. If you like to pass, Diving Catch on Human Catchers is the best build.
In my opinion, the best Catcher/Gutter Runner is a natural one turner.
With 1TTD, even if you fail to defend, you still have a chance to tie or win the game.
Without 1TTD you are easy prey of opponent's stalling.
gonzip



Joined: Jul 29, 2022

Post   Posted: Mar 28, 2023 - 12:16 Reply with quote Back to top

For humans I try to develop only 2

1 with Block->+Ma->SS->Sprint
1 with Sneaky + Dirty player

3rd one could be as Matt said, Wres/block, daunt, ss
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