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Malmir



Joined: May 20, 2008

Post   Posted: May 13, 2024 - 21:00 Reply with quote Back to top

"Would you say it's time for our viewers to panic?"

"Hmm, yes I would Kent."
Nightbird



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: May 13, 2024 - 23:36 Reply with quote Back to top

Nerf Hypnotic Gaze 2024 Question

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MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: May 13, 2024 - 23:46 Reply with quote Back to top

My idea for nerfing the Hypnotic Gaze: with a successful roll, all the target's skills are cancelled on a 6, otherwise only the target's Tackle Zone is cancelled.
RDaneel



Joined: Feb 24, 2023

Post   Posted: May 14, 2024 - 00:00 Reply with quote Back to top

MattDakka wrote:
My idea for nerfing the Hypnotic Gaze: with a successful roll, all the target's skills are cancelled on a 6, otherwise only the target's Tackle Zone is cancelled.

why?

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MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: May 14, 2024 - 00:18 Reply with quote Back to top

Because Hypnotic Gaze always cancelling all the target's skills is potentially too good and scales very well.
Cancelling all the skills on a 6 would nerf it.
Not saying it's the best way to nerf it, but it's an idea.
BBKing



Joined: Nov 13, 2015

Post   Posted: May 14, 2024 - 04:10 Reply with quote Back to top

everytime you want to move a vampire you have to roll bloodlust, calm down pumpkin
Nightbird



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: May 14, 2024 - 04:12 Reply with quote Back to top

MattDakka wrote:
My idea for nerfing the Hypnotic Gaze: with a successful roll, all the target's skills are cancelled on a 6, otherwise only the target's Tackle Zone is cancelled.


How about it just goes back to what it used to be, tackle zone nullification?

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asteflix



Joined: Jan 20, 2014

Post   Posted: May 14, 2024 - 05:06 Reply with quote Back to top

Malmir wrote:
"Would you say it's time for our viewers to panic?"

"Hmm, yes I would Kent."


I for one welcome our new vampire overlords and would like to remind them that as a trusted vamp coach I can be helpful in ruining others to toil in their underground blood banks.

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asteflix



Joined: Jan 20, 2014

Post   Posted: May 14, 2024 - 05:49 Reply with quote Back to top

Before you all say something, I said back in October when vamps were released that they were the most busted high tv team ever released and that the runner was the best positional in blood bowl and it wasnt close. DOOM IS COMING

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Malmir



Joined: May 20, 2008

Post   Posted: May 14, 2024 - 07:19 Reply with quote Back to top

asteflix wrote:
Before you all say something, I said back in October when vamps were released that they were the most busted high tv team ever released and that the runner was the best positional in blood bowl and it wasnt close. DOOM IS COMING


Then you were entirely right, but now it's obvious to the rest of us, it would be nice if something was done about it (be it a nerf or seasons or something else) otherwise high tv bb, including majors are going to suffer badly in my opinion.
Klunker



Joined: Apr 02, 2021

Post   Posted: May 14, 2024 - 07:34 Reply with quote Back to top

When my high TV bash teams have faced high TV vamps, the games usually came down to the vampsā€˜ regen rolls. If they regenerate successfully, they win. If not, they lose. Vamps are a fragile team. They might be favored to win every individual game, but over the course of a major, attrition should catch up to them (at least in theory).
MerryZ



Joined: Nov 28, 2005

Post   Posted: May 14, 2024 - 08:35 Reply with quote Back to top

Giev redraft.

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gumbi



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: May 14, 2024 - 08:41 Reply with quote Back to top

Nightbird wrote:
MattDakka wrote:
My idea for nerfing the Hypnotic Gaze: with a successful roll, all the target's skills are cancelled on a 6, otherwise only the target's Tackle Zone is cancelled.


How about it just goes back to what it used to be, tackle zone nullification?


I agree, it feels like turning off skills was one of these accidental rules changes (it needs an FAQ to explain as it isnt obvious).
Joost



Joined: Mar 17, 2014

Post   Posted: May 14, 2024 - 08:48 Reply with quote Back to top

Agreed. The nullification of skills by the gaze is very harsh. Whether or not it is too much on Bonehead etc. I don't know.
MerryZ



Joined: Nov 28, 2005

Post   Posted: May 14, 2024 - 10:02 Reply with quote Back to top

Mv8 and not needing to bite on failed bloodlust is what I think is a bit too much, both negating vampires weaknesses. Vamps should be slow and they should explode.

Bloated Vamp teams are more of a perpetual league problem than a roster problem.

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