Chainsaw
Joined: Aug 31, 2005
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Enigma179
Joined: Sep 19, 2010
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Nov 18, 2012 - 15:07 |
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Also getting traits on a 7 has the same odds as getting traits on doubles, except when you get them on doubles they also contend with the +MA/+AV option on double 5s, and the +ST option on double 6s, along with the doubles skills in general. |
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Foad
Joined: Sep 02, 2007
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Nov 18, 2012 - 15:50 |
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There was never +AV as an option in LRB 4, so it's a little unfair to run the "CRaP" line over that...
LRB had Spikes, which was on a double - so 30 is a fair price.
Personally, I don't think Dwarves and Orcs need buffing against CPOMB - it's the only thing they need to fear.
It;s like banning kryptonite in matches -vs- superman.
Either that or ban dwarves and orcs, then you could do what you want with +MA. |
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Reisender
Joined: Sep 29, 2007
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Nov 18, 2012 - 16:44 |
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i see the claw as the problem. make claw +1 on all av rolls and use different apos for long term cas balancing if needed |
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pythrr
Joined: Mar 07, 2006
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Nov 18, 2012 - 17:32 |
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let's face it. the problem here is the ability of some teams to spam claw.
at high av this makes them entirely unbalanced as a team. |
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harvestmouse
Joined: May 13, 2007
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Nov 18, 2012 - 17:35 |
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| Reisender wrote: | | i see the claw as the problem. make claw +1 on all av rolls and use different apos for long term cas balancing if needed |
I hate the fluff behind current claw, but I love the mechanics. +2 is perfect in my opinion, it's a great skill. Probably should be a double or a trait though. |
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Reisender
Joined: Sep 29, 2007
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Nov 18, 2012 - 18:52 |
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i think that CRP had the great idea of wrestle skill, so it made one rock/paper/scissors scheme less annoying (as you can take down blodgers with wrestle and so there is less chance of losing to a blodge spam), this claw: great vs av9, ok vs av8 nothing vs av7 just opened another of that.
one can argue about pomb and the balance of that (as we do all the time  ) but seeing orcs or lizardmen or even dwarves play vs chaos nowadays is sad...
i agree pythhr that keeping it a double would have been better (chaos team design is even worse now - terrible at low tv, but due to all Strength and mutation access plus great statlines on the warriors too good at high tv) |
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Beerox
Joined: Feb 14, 2008
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Nov 19, 2012 - 07:48 |
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+AV should mean something, no matter who blocks you. It's questionable even without the existence of claw. What are you hoping... to get knocked over and have your opponent roll a 9, so you can use it? But in an environment with easy claw access it is even less useful. I never take +AV.
Funny though, +AV is nice for PO players. Go ahead foul me! |
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DukeTyrion
Joined: Feb 18, 2004
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Nov 19, 2012 - 11:15 |
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| Purplegoo wrote: | There are a few skill choices that are redundant in the sense that no-one in their right mind takes them ... Thick Skull (Fend, but, erm...), you'd never even consider those skills unless you got them for free, but when you have them, they get used.
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I have taken Think Skull on a BG and been very happy with it.
After all, Think Skull is the only skill which assists against the injury roll, rather than the armour roll. |
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Qaz
Joined: Apr 28, 2004
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Nov 19, 2012 - 11:21 |
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Regenerate assists pretty well vs the injury roll I would say |
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Badoek
Joined: May 17, 2009
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Nov 19, 2012 - 12:27 |
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not for those two werewolves I saw last night in the FC.... |
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zakatan
Joined: May 17, 2008
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Nov 19, 2012 - 13:05 |
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can someone fix the spelling of this thread's topic? |
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DukeTyrion
Joined: Feb 18, 2004
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Nov 19, 2012 - 13:14 |
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| Qaz wrote: | | Regenerate assists pretty well vs the injury roll I would say |
Doesn't keep them on the pitch though  |
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Qaz
Joined: Apr 28, 2004
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Nov 19, 2012 - 15:07 |
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Nothing does when a cas is rolled |
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DukeTyrion
Joined: Feb 18, 2004
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Nov 19, 2012 - 15:13 |
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| Qaz wrote: | | Nothing does when a cas is rolled |
No, but when the injury roll is a KO, Thick Skull can  |
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