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Poll
Update Logan?
option 1 (see thread)
39%
 39%  [ 36 ]
option 2 (see thread)
13%
 13%  [ 12 ]
option 3 (see thread)
16%
 16%  [ 15 ]
other option (see thread)
3%
 3%  [ 3 ]
keep him as he is
17%
 17%  [ 16 ]
replace Logan with different kind of star player
10%
 10%  [ 10 ]
Total Votes : 92


peikko



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Oct 03, 2006 - 09:00 Reply with quote Back to top

There has been some debate about Chaos Halfling star player Logan. As it is true that Logan is one of the most usefull star player in one of the bashiest race, here is your chance to give your opinion about him.

This poll will run 14 days and result decides future of Logan.

currently:
Code:
5 3 3 8 Block, Dauntless, Dodge, Razor Sharp Claws, No Hands, Stunty 60k


option 1:
Code:
5 3 3 7 Block, Dauntless, Razor Sharp Claws, No Hands, Stunty 60k


option 2:
Code:
5 3 3 8 Block, Dauntless, Dodge, Razor Sharp Claws, No Hands, Stunty 80k


option 3
Code:
5 3 3 7 Block, Dauntless, Dodge, Razor Sharp Claws, No Hands, Stunty 60k


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Cloggy



Joined: Sep 23, 2004

Post   Posted: Oct 03, 2006 - 09:07 Reply with quote Back to top

Out of the proposed options I like option 1 best. The reaosn for this is that wothout blodge he's easier to knock down and foul out of the game. No longer the untouchable sort.

Still I think the combination of Block/rsc which is in each of the options makes him too much of a force in stunty games.

I would say get rid of the rsc.

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Buur



Joined: Apr 29, 2004

Post   Posted: Oct 03, 2006 - 09:08 Reply with quote Back to top

Logan is the star player of stunty only the gentle giant compares and he cost 160k...
I wouldn't like to loose logan but the price to hire him could go up and maybe he has played his last match for chaos halfling and could start playing for some other race or races...

*EDIT* Just read Cloggys message and maybe rsc could be exchanges with some illegal weapon wich gives him rsc or claw (logan must have some sort of claws!) and the he could have a penalty roll! 8+ would be fine... yes keep him as he is give him a penalty roll and maybe let him switch race.... *EDIT OUT*

-Buur

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peikko



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Oct 03, 2006 - 09:10 Reply with quote Back to top

Cloggy wrote:
I would say get rid of the rsc.


Logan aint Logan anymore without rsc, so that equals as different star Smile
dony



Joined: Feb 08, 2004

Post   Posted: Oct 03, 2006 - 09:21 Reply with quote Back to top

my option (reduce -1 to fue and Av):

5 2 3 7 Block, Dauntless, Razor Sharp Claws, No Hands, Stunty 50k

in this way, this star player will reduce your blocks with 2 dices and other players can block with 2 dices very easy. And this star will not be a long time in the field.
Cloggy



Joined: Sep 23, 2004

Post   Posted: Oct 03, 2006 - 09:34 Reply with quote Back to top

peikko wrote:
Cloggy wrote:
I would say get rid of the rsc.


Logan aint Logan anymore without rsc, so that equals as different star Smile


Which is what I voted. I'm glad I made my point Very Happy

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quickie



Joined: Jul 19, 2004

Post   Posted: Oct 03, 2006 - 10:15 Reply with quote Back to top

keep it as he is, and fear it! chaoshalflings need their money to buy new players (especially carvers and minos), so he wouldnt be a lot time on the field. if you wanna do something for the chaoshalflings, then remove the troll as a big guy. minos need a blitz to move, as the carver need too. and... well that's not the issue of the thread... KEEP LOGAN AS HE (or IT?) IS! Smile
deckerCKY



Joined: Feb 24, 2005

Post   Posted: Oct 03, 2006 - 19:45 Reply with quote Back to top

I'd say option 1 is the best, but it should be at 50k. He's stunty with no dodge, so he'll usually be hit as hard as he hits (MB + Stunty vs RSC). With AV7, he won't last in the game long.

If you really wanna make him interesting....give him ball and chain. Thats just crazy enough to work though.
KingKurt



Joined: Nov 22, 2004

Post   Posted: Oct 03, 2006 - 19:59 Reply with quote Back to top

I would vote for Dony's proposal but would still make him cost 60k
sk8bcn



Joined: Apr 13, 2004

Post   Posted: Oct 04, 2006 - 09:22 Reply with quote Back to top

Logan w/o RSC would be stupid. Wolverine without his claws. That doesn't make sense. I voted option 1.

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shagga



Joined: Mar 26, 2006

Post   Posted: Oct 05, 2006 - 01:25 Reply with quote Back to top

I voted option 1 but I'd be just as happy to see him replaced.
Diabl0658



Joined: Oct 05, 2004

Post   Posted: Oct 05, 2006 - 01:40 Reply with quote Back to top

i dont think we should be weakening logan, but rather strengthening the other stars. who would pay 80k for a str1 av4 player who cant handle the ball?

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Optihut



Joined: Dec 16, 2004

Post   Posted: Oct 05, 2006 - 01:50 Reply with quote Back to top

Where is the X-Factor? I think if any change has to be made, he needs to gain regeneration Razz
ProPain



Joined: May 31, 2006

Post   Posted: Oct 05, 2006 - 03:24 Reply with quote Back to top

I'm a fan you might say... so... as a kind of recap, or a analytical approach...

No speed powers --- movemnet = to normal Cfling.
No str powers but can support more weight due to skeleton--- str at CFling or CFling +1
No agility powers but extensive training --- agility as per Cfling or Cfling+1
No external protection and doesnt like armour unless its samurai styled :-p --- AV as Cfling or Cfling -1
Since leaving Weapon X his training has taught him to disable with claws, not kill. --- Claws, not RSC.
Master Martial artist --- block dodge (tackle if balanced on previous descisions)
Regenerative powers and tough as nails skeleton (can I say it? copyright? adamant .. ummmm? what?) --- regeneration (thick skull)
Stunty cause well you know, hes not the tallest of em all is he?
No Hands cause pig skins pop.

Ending As... Logan - 5, 2(3), 3(4), 6,(7) Block Dodge Claws (tackle) (thick skull) Regeneration Stunty. No Hands.
I would rather see 5,2,4,6 block, dodge, tackle, claws, (thick skull) regen, no hands, stunty.

This represents Logans ability to hit precisily and effectively but not particularly with much str. And part of Logans endeering quality is he gets knocked down, but he tried to get up every time. If you were to ask me how much he would cost? I'd have to point out that Logan is not much of a team player, so a bit more then the average Wink If your gonna put Logan anywhere, as a fan, I have to request you make him stand out and make his cost show appropriately + a bit... for the honour of having him that is Very Happy

Good day to you all, my rant is completed.

(Think outside of the hex)
Diabl0658



Joined: Oct 05, 2004

Post   Posted: Oct 07, 2006 - 01:50 Reply with quote Back to top

you do know that logan is a khorne flesh hound, and not a chaos halfling, right?

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