Lexingtond
Joined: Apr 10, 2017
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Nov 13, 2017 - 14:35 |
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Hello forum,
I have a lvl 3 guard + AG5 High Elf lineman and I wanted some input on what to get him next.
Here are my thoughts:
-Dodge: 2+ dodges everywhere & offers him some defense from being hit, but tackle will ruin his day.
-Leap: Then again, he doesn't need to make as many dodges if he just jumps in/out on 2+, and leap can't be negated. But leap offers no defense from getting hit, and since he doesn't have block/wrestle he will not be able to sack caged ballcarriers by himself.
-Block: Keeps him alive, keeps him standing to apply guard, makes it a safe option to have him carry the ball.
-->Of course, there is nothing wrong with any of these skills and in a perfect world my guy will be getting all of them, but in what order would you take them? |
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Verminardo
Joined: Sep 27, 2006
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Nov 13, 2017 - 14:42 |
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No poll? No link to team?
AG5 and Guard is not an optimal combination at this point. Leap would make him a one-trick pony for cage breaking assists, so only useful if you have another Leaper with at least two out of Wrestle/SB/Tackle. And he won't live long.
AG5 is great for ball retreival, I like to combine it with Sure Hands, but MA6 is not ideal for it and with Guard taking up an additional slot it's a long way to get there. If you have another AG5 on the team, don't even think about it.
Normal skill route for Guard Elf Linemen is Block --> Dodge so I guess I'd stick to that, and treat the AG5 as a side show. |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Nov 13, 2017 - 14:45 |
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Block or Wrestle.
Wrestle if you want to have a sacker, Block for better synergy with Guard. |
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Lexingtond
Joined: Apr 10, 2017
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Nov 13, 2017 - 14:52 |
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Thank for the quick reply Verminardo,
A poll is a good idea. Let me see if I can't add one.
My team is on the PS4 Champions Ladder X. They are called: Flames of Asuryan.
It consists of 3 RR, apo, 4 catchers with dodge, 2 blitzers with blodge, and then just linos with block and one kicker. |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Nov 13, 2017 - 14:57 |
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Champions Ladder has long or short progression?
Because if the players can't be developed, taking AG 5 on a Linelf is not optimal choice. |
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Lexingtond
Joined: Apr 10, 2017
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Nov 13, 2017 - 15:14 |
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MattDakka wrote: | Champions Ladder has long or short progression?
Because if the players can't be developed, taking AG 5 on a Linelf is not optimal choice. |
Thanks for the input Matt,
My team is 5-1-0 as of yesterday and there are 17 days left of the regular season. When November 29th comes by, I am hoping to have played 12-20 games more, so anything is possible. |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Nov 13, 2017 - 15:19 |
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Well, you could focus on skilling that linelf up, but with 12-20 games left it's better to develop the positionals, a normal skill on him would have been better than +AG.
You could have a Blodge Guard Linelf now. |
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tmoila
Joined: Nov 25, 2012
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Nov 13, 2017 - 16:16 |
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Guards get hit. Block helps the player more when getting hit. Also allows the player to hit more.
Dodge gives maneuverability for the guard. (And to a minor extent helps when getting hit.)
So obvious Block. |
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Gartch
Joined: Sep 07, 2012
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Nov 13, 2017 - 16:54 |
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I would choose dodge to help him to replace and getting the guard at the right place. |
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DatMonsta
Joined: May 27, 2009
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Nov 13, 2017 - 17:47 |
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I second Gartch here, dodge for me to bring that guard where ever you need it |
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Antithesisoftime
Joined: Aug 20, 2014
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Nov 13, 2017 - 18:26 |
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I have a similar player
Plan was always dodge, then block as his next 2 skills, possibly going side step and fend last |
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Malmir
Joined: May 20, 2008
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Nov 13, 2017 - 18:41 |
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It isn't possible to have too many ag5 players with leap. |
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Lexingtond
Joined: Apr 10, 2017
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Nov 16, 2017 - 12:28 |
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The poor guy got a perm (-av) and I just couldn't justify his bloat any longer at that point. Lesson learned. |
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Grod
Joined: Sep 30, 2003
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Nov 16, 2017 - 12:30 |
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Dodge. It isn't even a close call. |
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The_Murker
Joined: Jan 30, 2011
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Nov 16, 2017 - 12:59 |
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Who said AG5 leap is a one trick pony? If you offer me ANY 2 skills on any elf, I pick +AG and leap. (unless it's a Wardancer.. double leap dosn't see like a good idea. Double Jugger hasn't worked miracles for me so far) |
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