Azure
Joined: Jan 30, 2007
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May 05, 2009 - 22:54 |
 
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So, as has been explained by Purplechest in his News Article, the 4 qualification Groups are:
GLT High TR Qualifiers
GLT High CR Qualifiers
GLT Old Teams Qualifiers
GLT 'Forlorn Races' Qualifiers
So, I figured I would offer some initial thoughts here:
1) High TR Qualifiers
- This is how every other major is done...the higher the TR, the better chance you got of getting in. For the last major, it was 210 to 230 or so as the cutoffs to get in.
- There will certainly be plenty of folks here and likewise will have a variety of less experienced players and those wanting to take advantage of a possible easy path to the main draw.
2) High CR Qualifiers
- Not sure who is really going to go here. Essentially, you are asking to be put against the stiffest competition in the tournament. And there is a greater chance of not making it in. If only 15 coaches apply...then only 8 make it in for qualifiers and you could have a very good CR and still be left out in the cold.
- This seems to be a last shot for coaches that have the needed CR (160+), but their teams are lowish 200 or even just 175 TR. Most coaches with a team over 250 TR are not going to risk missing out. Consider...if 31 coaches sign up...only 16 are taken, that means some high CR coaches are not making - this seems like the high risk approach as far as not making the cut - then facing very good competition. Really only for the lower/younger TR teams.
3) GLT Old Teams Qualifiers
- Accepted based on number of games played. This is a great place for the really old teams...but again risky approach if you team has played less than 100 games...similar to the CR Qualifiers, if there are not many teams that apply, you could risk not getting accepted - so again, if your team is over 250 TR, but has only played 50-80 games...this could be a risk to apply here.
4) GLT 'Forlorn Races' Qualifiers
- Based on highest TR within the Forlorn group. An excellent place to go if you are one of the group. There are no orcs, dwarves, or mainsteam elves...lots of weak races - so if you fit here, awesome place to compete.
Conclusion: I see most people going for the 1st and 4th entry...which is essentially the same qualifiers as are normally held - except split by races into "more competitive races" and "less competitive races" not that different than UI's split of dark vs light. The wildcard is the 2nd and 3rd qualifiers. I see PeteW and JackDaniels and others going for the CR qualifier - being so high, they will get in...but otherwise, only people with lower TR races are going to go in...most people will go for the 1 or 4 qualifier to avoid the really good coaches (with good reason). Likewise, Qualifier 3 is going to be a tough call - it will be smaller, so the older teams will go for it...but it is risky and most people again will go for the higher percentage chance of getting into a qualifier by taking 1 or 4. Afterall, you can not win a qualifier if you do not make the draw for it in the first place.
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Forrest_Gump
Joined: Sep 25, 2003
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May 05, 2009 - 22:59 |
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hehe, I agree I'd like to enter the CR qually but my CR tends to drop by 4-5 every now and then so wouldn't be too comfortable with that. I guess i'll try the forlorn for the fun of it, but probably not the most sensible option for 300tr humans, or maybe it is, i dunno  |
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mymLaban
Joined: Apr 20, 2004
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May 05, 2009 - 23:03 |
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I predict the 4th option will be dominated by tons of khemri teams :] |
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spubbbba
Joined: Jul 31, 2006
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May 05, 2009 - 23:08 |
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Hmm, I don't have any high TR teams after my tournament Undead got wrecked, and sadly don't have the time to build up a new team.
But i do have stupidly high CR, i wonder if it's worth entering with my rubbish Undead or Dark Elves? Mind you I'd hate to give a filthy cherrypicking lucker like PeteW an easy ride, it's bad enough he'll get to destroy my humans with his Chaos in the White Isle Premier this season. |
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Bill_Vestergaard
Joined: Dec 16, 2007
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May 05, 2009 - 23:22 |
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I just realized I don't know which group I want to a apply to.
With TR 275 the GLT High TR Qualifiers seems like a good choise.
At the moment I got Coach Rank: 169.75. which might be enough for the GLT High CR Qualifiers , but you never know.
My team only played 54 games, so the GLT Old Teams Qualifiers is no place for my team.
They are orcs, so GLT 'Forlorn Races' Qualifiers is no place for me.
This leaves me with High TR Qualifiers and High CR Qualifiers. I was thinking that I might want to apply to High CR Qualifiers, but then I got to thinking. with that TR it might be more safe to go for High TR Qualifiers.
I love this new thing. giving this major something special. But it is pretty hard to figure out what to do. specially now that it is the first time for me to see it in action. any advise it highly appreciated.
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xcver
Joined: Mar 10, 2005
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May 05, 2009 - 23:39 |
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| Forrest_Gump wrote: | | hehe, I agree I'd like to enter the CR qually but my CR tends to drop by 4-5 every now and then so wouldn't be too comfortable with that. I guess i'll try the forlorn for the fun of it, but probably not the most sensible option for 300tr humans, or maybe it is, i dunno |
you wanna tell us a 175 CR won't make the cut?!? I don't think so. |
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Azure
Joined: Jan 30, 2007
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May 05, 2009 - 23:48 |
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| xcver wrote: | | Forrest_Gump wrote: | | hehe, I agree I'd like to enter the CR qually but my CR tends to drop by 4-5 every now and then so wouldn't be too comfortable with that. I guess i'll try the forlorn for the fun of it, but probably not the most sensible option for 300tr humans, or maybe it is, i dunno |
you wanna tell us a 175 CR won't make the cut?!? I don't think so. |
Hard to say, like I said, if 16 of the top 50 CR coaches apply...and only 15 other coaches apply, a CR of 175 will not be enough. |
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xcver
Joined: Mar 10, 2005
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May 05, 2009 - 23:52 |
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highly doubtable that they all will apply to the to CR groups, ah well we'll see |
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G_Force
Joined: Aug 19, 2004
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May 05, 2009 - 23:58 |
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If 175 is the 5th highest of 7 applicants then miss the cut is exactly what will happen although i see there being more coaches going for the CR than that.
There is a very big assumption being made the all of the high CR coaches are good BB Players with their chosen team when in reality a fair few of them are just specialist in fruit harvesting (cherry picking). I think it is the pickers that attracted Pete to the CR qualifier but I would suggest it is in their very nature to avoid the genuine good high cr coaches by opting for one of the other divisions.
I'm still not sure which team to enter as most have taken a beating recently and I play a lot more L than R so Old team is unlikely. A good run lately and some in tourneys has inflated my CR to over 172 which amazes me to be honest but it does give me that extra option although if i try and build a team any it will most likely crash. High TR is certainly out so I'll probably be going with undead or nurgle in the forlorn races maybe. |
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Texan
Joined: Dec 14, 2005
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May 06, 2009 - 00:04 |
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| Azure wrote: | | xcver wrote: | | Forrest_Gump wrote: | | hehe, I agree I'd like to enter the CR qually but my CR tends to drop by 4-5 every now and then so wouldn't be too comfortable with that. I guess i'll try the forlorn for the fun of it, but probably not the most sensible option for 300tr humans, or maybe it is, i dunno |
you wanna tell us a 175 CR won't make the cut?!? I don't think so. |
Hard to say, like I said, if 16 of the top 50 CR coaches apply...and only 15 other coaches apply, a CR of 175 will not be enough. |
While this is true, I doubt many of the top CR coaches will apply under this category. Additionally some of the "180 CR Club" are fairly inactive. |
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Emeyin
Joined: Apr 14, 2008
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May 06, 2009 - 00:13 |
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I'm leaning towards the High CR qualifiers. Give me the best Coaches, you're going to have to go through them eventually might as well make it sooner than later.
The Old teams Qualifier doesn't sound bad either. Always fun to play against a well established team. |
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Catalyst32
Joined: Jul 14, 2008
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May 06, 2009 - 00:22 |
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I'm pretty much stuck with Forlorn Races. I think alot of other coaches in their 1st year on Fumbbl may be stuck into this group as well. No relatively new player can really hope enter the Old Teams or the High CR qualifiers... not enough time to play enough games OR climb into the very top of CR. But many may have had the chance to develop a team to High TR or to build a nice Forlorn team.
The only teams I have high enough to apply (with a little extra training) are my Elf, Norse, Humans and Orcs. The Orcs aren't Forlorn but my CR stinks, my TR is only 180ish, and I think they have played less than 15 games. So they will not make the cut in ANY division.
My Elves are around 200 but they really need to be trimmed down and rebuilt. So it looks like I will be bringing Norse or Humans depending on which team takes the least beat downs and rolls the most doubles in the next week of limited playing time. |
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Zombie69
Joined: Jul 02, 2007
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May 06, 2009 - 00:32 |
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I'm no as convinced as Azure that applications will be so few in groups 2 and 3. I think all groups will have 32+ applications, and applying to a smaller group therefore increases your chance of getting in, rather than diminishing it. |
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Azure
Joined: Jan 30, 2007
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May 06, 2009 - 03:48 |
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| Zombie69 wrote: | | I'm no as convinced as Azure that applications will be so few in groups 2 and 3. I think all groups will have 32+ applications, and applying to a smaller group therefore increases your chance of getting in, rather than diminishing it. |
Maybe. I would see 64 in 1 and 4, 32 is possible in 2 and 3...but I also see it could fall around 30ish in either and that is really going to bum a lot of folks. Anyway, if you are right...maybe we get the following cutoffs:
#1) TR of 220 (64 taken)
#2) CR of 168 (32 taken)
#3) 75 Games (32 taken)
#4) TR of 220 (64 taken)
Think I am wrong? Go ahead and make your own prediction. Mine are worth what you paid for them |
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maysrill
Joined: Dec 29, 2008
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May 06, 2009 - 04:12 |
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In theory I could enter based on CR, but I'm A) so borderline a couple team-prep games gone awry could easily drop me below 160 and B) not enough of a weenie to basically ask nuffle to let me dice 3 coaches who are better than me 
The team I'm prepping is an orc squad with under 50 games played.
I hope to be seeing you guys in the TR qual |
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