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sann0638



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Post   Posted: Dec 20, 2017 - 20:04 Reply with quote Back to top

In Facebook at the beginning of November, and then on TFF yesterday, GW have made a ruling on how inducements should be played according to BB16. I've tried to summarise the situation here: http://www.sann0638.co.uk/ruling-on-inducements/

Edit: Fumbbl note on BB16: https://fumbbl.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=28462

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ArrestedDevelopment



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Post   Posted: Dec 20, 2017 - 20:30 Reply with quote Back to top

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooh

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Post   Posted: Dec 20, 2017 - 20:37 Reply with quote Back to top

Booooo!
JackH



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Post   Posted: Dec 20, 2017 - 20:41 Reply with quote Back to top

Could have cleared this up in the rulebook, DZ1, DZ2 or the new Almanac instead of some random facebook reply.
Gartch



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Post   Posted: Dec 20, 2017 - 20:47 Reply with quote Back to top

@Sann Thank you for the information

I think those are good news. I did not like the "BB2016 ruling actually wrong ruling" on inducements.

Now it's true they could say it a bit earlier Laughing
DonnyRainboe



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Post   Posted: Dec 20, 2017 - 20:52 Reply with quote Back to top

Huh, think I'll just ignore this an continue to use the system that Fumbbl uses even in my tabletop games.
sann0638



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Post   Posted: Dec 20, 2017 - 21:04 Reply with quote Back to top

I believe that Fumbbl changed to match BB16, as people thought it was.

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Post   Posted: Dec 20, 2017 - 21:12
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There's no way you could deduce those rules from the words written in the book. It's only because it used to be that way that anyone has even questioned it

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Guardikai



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Post   Posted: Dec 20, 2017 - 21:28 Reply with quote Back to top

So, if the higher team spends money the lower team gets more money to spend. Seems fair!
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Post   Posted: Dec 20, 2017 - 21:38 Reply with quote Back to top

mister__joshua wrote:
There's no way you could deduce those rules from the words written in the book. It's only because it used to be that way that anyone has even questioned it



Absolutely, this smacks of GW realising the rule as written is potentially terrible and making some alternative history.

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Post   Posted: Dec 20, 2017 - 21:46 Reply with quote Back to top

They can't even cash grab well, GW you lost your touch.....

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Sp00keh



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Post   Posted: Dec 20, 2017 - 21:55 Reply with quote Back to top

full quote:

Well, Alexander, we went straight to the horse's mouth on this one. This is directly from the Specialist Games Team and will feature in an upcoming FAQ:

Q. Can you explain the steps for calculating Inducements in a bit more detail please?
A. Yes, there does appear to be some confusion over this, so here’s the sequence broken down into more easily followed steps:
1. Each coach looks at their Treasury and decides if they will spend any of the gold on Inducements. This gold is transferred out of the Treasury and immediately increases Team Value accordingly. For example, if Jim had a Team Value of 1,250,000 gp and decided to spend 100,000 gp from his Treasury, his Team Value would increase to 1,350,000 gp even before he announces to his opponent what he plans to spend that gold on.

2. The coach with the lower Team Value is granted an additional amount of ‘petty cash’ equal to the difference in Team Values as they are now. To continue the above example, if Jim’s opponent, Bob, had a Team Value of 1,100,000 gp he would be awarded petty cash of 250,000 gp. That is 150,000 gp for the initial difference in TeamValue, and an additional 100,000 gp for the gold Bob has removed from his Treasury to spend on Inducements.
Note here that if Bob took any gold from his Treasury, that amount would also be added to his Team Value, therefore the amount of petty cash awarded would be decreased accordingly.

3. Next, the coach with the higher Team Value decides what they will spend the Gold they transferred from their Treasury on, so in our example, Jim now declares that he will spend his 100,000 gp on a single Bribe Inducement.

4. Finally, the coach with the lower Team Value spends their gold on Inducements, so to complete our example Bob would decide what he is spending his 250,000 gp on, purchasing a Bribe, some Extra Team Training, and a Bloodweiser Keg for the upcoming match.

Hope that helps!
Roland



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Post   Posted: Dec 20, 2017 - 21:56 Reply with quote Back to top

*facepalm*
Rawlf



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Post   Posted: Dec 20, 2017 - 22:26 Reply with quote Back to top

Is it safe to assume that the higher tv team transfers gold before the lower tv team makes that decision in step 1? They did not specify as they did with step 3 and 4 and it sounds a little as if it was supposed to be done simultaneously.
happygrue



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Post   Posted: Dec 20, 2017 - 22:27 Reply with quote Back to top

Rawlf wrote:
Is it safe to assume that the higher tv team transfers gold before the lower tv team makes that decision in step 1? They did not specify as they did with step 3 and 4 and it sounds a little as if it was supposed to be done simultaneously.


It does sound that way, doesn't it? I am curious as to that.

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