Delmont
Joined: Apr 25, 2004
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Jun 01, 2005 - 08:56 |
 
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I just want to know, does fumbbl do it to everyone? I thought I was getting hosed so I decided to do some recording.
In the last week and 1/2:
22 go for it attempts
16 failures
14 pass attempts
6 failed with a 1
About the only thing I succeed in is blocking. Anyone else have this? |
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Webbe
Joined: Aug 13, 2003
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Jun 01, 2005 - 08:58 |
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I never succeeded a roll in over 500 games, I'm truly jinxed |
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CircularLogic
Joined: Aug 22, 2003
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Jun 01, 2005 - 09:00 |
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You succeed in blocking? Man.. you lucky git. |
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Mr_QB
Joined: Jul 16, 2004
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Jun 01, 2005 - 09:02 |
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try asking Jinxed about go for it's. and you will hear a tale of snakeeyes ;-P |
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SideshowBob
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jun 01, 2005 - 09:04 |
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Go for it is about a 4+. So 16 failures on 22 attempts isn't great, but not terrible either, since you make around one of four 4+-rolls.
Does that make sense? |
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Smess
Joined: Feb 13, 2004
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Jun 01, 2005 - 09:19 |
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Maybe .....
Maybe, the Random Dice Generator isn't random at all
Anyone ever thought of that ???? |
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Saint
Joined: Sep 14, 2004
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Jun 01, 2005 - 09:21 |
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U are lucky enough 
So stop whinning ...hehe |
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masterpaw
Joined: Jan 09, 2005
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Jun 01, 2005 - 09:26 |
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Mezir
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jun 01, 2005 - 09:52 |
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I hope that that was in jest, Smess, or I will have to kill you! |
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ruoste
Joined: Jun 02, 2004
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Jun 01, 2005 - 09:57 |
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what do the dice rolls have to do with fumbbl, its javabowl or nuffle you should blame  |
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Rynkky
Joined: Aug 03, 2004
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Jun 01, 2005 - 09:57 |
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Random number generator is random but there's one big flaw in JBB design. Both players use same random number generator and thus while the other usually has good luck the other has really bad luck.
"Why this ?", you ask. Well it's because the numbers gotten from random number generator follow the laws of randomness thus after certain number of d6 rolls average goes towards 3.5. So, when the other player rolls couple double 6s the other player has to roll couple 1s. Sometimes this situation evens out but in most games it does not. |
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Rusk
Joined: Dec 08, 2003
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Jun 01, 2005 - 10:00 |
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Well it's because the numbers gotten from random number generator follow the laws of randomness thus after certain number of d6 rolls average goes towards 3.5. So, when the other player rolls couple double 6s the other player has to roll couple 1s. Sometimes this situation evens out but in most games it does not.
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As is the case for all the 6-sided dice you use in tabletop BB, no difference there. Remember, the dice have no memory, and neither does the Random number generator (I think |
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Rynkky
Joined: Aug 03, 2004
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Jun 01, 2005 - 10:06 |
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| Rusk wrote: | | Quote: |
Well it's because the numbers gotten from random number generator follow the laws of randomness thus after certain number of d6 rolls average goes towards 3.5. So, when the other player rolls couple double 6s the other player has to roll couple 1s. Sometimes this situation evens out but in most games it does not.
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As is the case for all the 6-sided dice you use in tabletop BB, no difference there. Remember, the dice have no memory, and neither does the Random number generator (I think |
Hate to disappoint you but random number generator is a fixed stream of numbers and thus have a memory. It's just matter of seed where this stream is started to read from.
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It would be very easy to make a program that would show you the next 20 numbers. Just by looking those you'd notice a pattern that other player gets lucky with some high number while the other gets the bad numbers (because of the alignment of the number stream). And as I said sometimes this evens out but it's not always the case. |
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Wizard
Joined: Jul 09, 2004
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Jun 01, 2005 - 10:08 |
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The random generator in the client is more random than dice
Dice are flawed - particualr edges are sloped more than others, wind resistance, table surface, dice are weighted a few microns to one side... etc.
Dice from a computer are truley random, pick up a C++ book or a Java book and figure it out for yourself.
Random numbers are impossible to generate from a computer itself (computers are not capable of making a choice) the rand() function in Java that ski uses in the client runs off your system clock so you can write a program to predict the numbers that will be spit out if you can figure out the algorithim that rand() uses.
Try some research before claiming (out of ignorance and frustration at your most recent game) that the dice in the client are rigged |
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DonKosak
Joined: Apr 06, 2004
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Jun 01, 2005 - 10:38 |
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Just waiting for BMM to wake up, fail his WA roll and roar in rage
Some explanations can be found in this thread. |
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